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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Interactive hat.
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:33:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090326143354.GE3358@muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvzlf89z2v.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org>

Hi, Stefan!

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:48:11AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > If it's possible to code everything we need with a symbol property, I
> > think the interactive hat mechanism should be removed.

> You got things backwards here: the "^" describes the behavior of the
> command, so it should be part of the command, not its name.

NOT SO FAST THERE, BUDDY!!!  Most, possibly nearly all, properties
attached to a symbol describe either the symbol-function or the
symbol-value.  So, whilst I agree you have some sort of point, it would
require a massive change to Emacs Lisp to allow properties to be
attached to a function or value, as opposed to the symbol holding them.

> The ability to use a symbol property for that is a hack that can come
> in handy at times, but it's still just a hack.

I don't think so.  It is the standard canonical use of symbol
properties.  A quick bit of grepping reveals 4278 uses of `put'.  Of the
ones in the first 100 or so, they all look recording properties of the
function rather than the symbol itself.

>         Stefan

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).




  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-26 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090324154937.GB4657@muc.de>
2009-03-23 22:37 ` bug#2760: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-24  0:46   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-24 13:52     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25  1:38       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-25 10:16         ` Interactive hat. [Was: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode] Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 10:30           ` Interactive hat Miles Bader
2009-03-25 10:53             ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 11:03               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-03-25 14:24                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 11:29                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 14:59               ` Miles Bader
2009-03-26 11:51                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 12:14                   ` David Kastrup
2009-03-26 12:51                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 13:48                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 14:33                     ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2009-03-26 16:30                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 16:45                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 18:57                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-29  0:44                             ` Kim F. Storm
2009-03-29  1:40                               ` Miles Bader
2009-03-29  2:02                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-03-26 14:47                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-03-26 15:23                       ` Miles Bader
2009-03-26 17:43                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-03-25 16:18             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-25 11:26           ` Interactive hat. [Was: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode] Juanma Barranquero
2009-03-25 13:20             ` Interactive hat Chong Yidong
2009-03-25 14:19             ` Interactive hat. [Was: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode] Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 16:41               ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-03-26 12:44                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 13:50                   ` Interactive hat Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 15:27                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 17:09                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 19:06                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 21:18                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 22:32                             ` Johan Bockgård
2009-03-26 23:34                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 23:32                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-27  2:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-27 11:15                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-13 19:32                                 ` Interactive hat. (Patch) Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-13 20:47                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-14 20:15                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-14 20:47                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                     ` <20090423205030.GA2723@muc.de>
2009-04-24 13:38                                       ` Interactive hat. (Patch V2) Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-27 11:46                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-27 18:39                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 22:33                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-29  7:22                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-29 11:36                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-29 13:13                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-07 19:14                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-28  0:14                                           ` Karl Berry
2009-04-28  1:12                                             ` Miles Bader
2009-04-28  7:55                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 21:44                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-28 21:39                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-13 22:50                                   ` Interactive hat. (Patch) Miles Bader
2009-04-14 20:22                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-14 20:49                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-15  8:29                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-03-24 15:55   ` bug#2760: marked as done (CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode.) Emacs bug Tracking System
2009-03-27  0:20 Interactive hat naesten

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