From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: end-of-defun is fubsr. Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:33:25 +0000 Message-ID: <20090204113325.GA1049@muc.de> References: <20090202202703.GB11077@muc.de> <20090203105035.GB1396@muc.de> <20090203122906.GC1396@muc.de> <20090203130028.GD1396@muc.de> <20090203160941.GE1396@muc.de> <87prhziink.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <49887C56.405@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233746078 13147 80.91.229.12 (4 Feb 2009 11:14:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Roehler Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 04 12:15:52 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LUfjP-0007Rg-Ub for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:15:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44480 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUfi6-0000g0-RT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:14:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUfhU-0000XG-AQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:13:48 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUfhS-0000Vv-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:13:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39121 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUfhS-0000Vn-FF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:13:46 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:1499 helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUfhQ-00018t-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:13:46 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 9391 invoked by uid 3782); 4 Feb 2009 11:13:41 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9E5372B.dip.t-dialin.net [217.229.55.43]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:13:39 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 1858 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Feb 2009 11:33:26 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49887C56.405@online.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108729 Archived-At: 'ten Tag, Andreas! On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 06:18:14PM +0100, Andreas Roehler wrote: > I have remarked buggy/risky implementation already here > http://www.archivum.info/emacs-devel@gnu.org/2007-11/msg01940.html Thanks, I hadn't seen that thread. Quoting from it, Stefan said in Message-ID: , Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:26:59 -0500: Rather than argue about the change itself, just give us some use case where the new behavior is problematic. We now have at least two problematic behaviours: it enforces inefficiencies on some major modes, e.g. CC Mode. It is difficult to code bug-free (bug #2106, looping in Python mode). I agree with Andreas here, this change should be reworked. > Andreas Röhler -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).