From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoying paren match messages in minibuffer Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:33:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <200901131833.n0DIX33W010995@mothra.ics.uci.edu> References: <200901131555.n0DFtvke010180@mothra.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231871660 6241 80.91.229.12 (13 Jan 2009 18:34:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dan Nicolaescu , Geoff Gole , Miles Bader To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 13 19:35:32 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LMo6q-0006J3-J3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:35:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52216 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMo5a-0001GR-5Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:34:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMo4m-0000hY-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:33:20 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMo4j-0000gO-9L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:33:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48207 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMo4j-0000gI-2w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:33:17 -0500 Original-Received: from sallyv2.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.120]:33074) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LMo4f-0001ql-4a; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:33:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n0DIX3Rs023996; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:33:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from dann@localhost) by mothra.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id n0DIX33W010995; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:33:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:27:18 -0500") Original-Lines: 19 X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: n0DIX3Rs023996 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107826 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > >> I think all messages should be. I've used experimental code to do that > >> in the past, and it was _really_ nice. No stupid awkward pauses and > >> annoyance like the current method, everything just seemed *right*. > > How about allowing the minibuffer to have a header line, and display > > messages in the header line? This limits the messages to be one line > > long, but it's probably easier to read, and it shouldn't be too much of > > a distraction. Just my 2 cents. > > In my setup (where I use a seperate minibuffer-only frame), this would > work OK, maybe, but in general eating up one more line of text > is undesirable. I didn't mean for the extra header line to always be present, just to be created on demand when there's a need for an extra message in the minibuffer. Yes, this would move the mode-line one line up and down when displaying the extra header line in the minibufer, but that might not be a problem given that it's not such a frequent action.