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From: Harald Hanche-Olsen <hanche@math.ntnu.no>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: proced: ppid of process ID 0 can be 0
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:54:27 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081222.095427.259439175.hanche@math.ntnu.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <u1vw0etsp.fsf@gnu.org>

+ Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:

>> I.e. under POSIX, they should treat a "ppid == 0" as meaning that
>> there's no parent (i.e. the data returned to Elisp should never say "the
>> parent is process 0" but should instead say "this process doesn't have
>> a parent").
> 
> [...]
> 
> Btw, is the above really mandated by Posix?  Any references to that?

FWIW, on FreeBSD there is process 0 (the swapper), and various kernel
processes have process 0 as their parent.

; pstree 0
-+= 00000 root [swapper]
 |-+= 00001 root /sbin/init --
 | |--= 00354 _dhcp dhclient: em0 (dhclient)
 | |--= 00623 root /sbin/devd
.... <snip> ....
 |--- 00002 root [g_event]
 |--- 00003 root [g_up]
 |--- 00004 root [g_down]
 |--- 00005 root [system_taskq]
 |--- 00006 root [system_taskq]
 |--- 00007 root [acpi_task_0]
.... <snipetty snip> ....

Of course, it may be that you really don't want emacs to see kernel
processes at all.

- Harald




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-22  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-20  2:52 proced: ppid of process ID 0 can be 0 Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-20  3:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-20  4:31   ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-20 19:10     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-20 10:20   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-20 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-20 19:41   ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-20 21:02     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-20 22:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-20 22:41       ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-21  4:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-21  4:48           ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-21 19:17             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-21 21:26               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22  4:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 10:41                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22 19:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 19:26                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22  2:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-22  4:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22  4:17                   ` Miles Bader
2008-12-22 19:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22  8:54                   ` Harald Hanche-Olsen [this message]
2008-12-22 10:43                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22 10:50                       ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2008-12-22 18:03                       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-12-22 10:59                   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-12-22 19:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 19:37                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-12-22 19:59                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-12-22 12:23                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-22 19:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 22:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-23  4:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-23 12:28                           ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-23 14:44                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-23 19:12                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-23 20:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-23 22:34                                 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-12-24  2:34                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24  4:14                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-24 16:47                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24  4:15                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-24 16:47                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24 18:29                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-24 18:55                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24 21:12                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-30 17:11                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-30 22:02                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31  1:40                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-22  8:28               ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-12-21  2:18       ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-24  7:42 grischka

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