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From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: Jason Spiro <jasonspiro4@gmail.com>
Cc: 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: bug#1305: Please disable the audible bell by default, to avoid discouraging newbies in crowded offices and elsewhere
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:34:21 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811062334.mA6NYLB6012009@mothra.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ff7ab970811041451y4f755e66o84dc03e992fc8d06@mail.gmail.com> (Jason Spiro's message of "Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:51:13 -0500")

"Jason Spiro" <jasonspiro4@gmail.com> writes:

  > By default, Emacs makes an audible beep every time the user makes an
  > error.  It would be great if you could please change the default
  > either:
  > 
  > 1.  To not make any audible or visible bell when the user makes an
  > error.  (This would be best.)
  > 
  > 2.  Or to use a visible bell only.  (This would be an acceptable
  > alternative.  Plus, Emacs already knows how to show a visible bell.)
  > 
  > If you do not change the default, some Emacs newbies may decide not to
  > use Emacs, but to use other editors instead, perhaps non-Free ones.
  > Here are three reasons why they may decide that:
  > 
  > A.  Some users find that the beep is harsh and unpleasant to the ear.
  > 
  > B.  Most apps beep only when something very bad happens.  But Emacs
  > beeps even upon minor mistakes like scrolling past end of buffer, or
  > pressing an unassigned key.  It even beeps on non-mistakes like
  > pressing C-g.  The amount of beeping may make users uncomfortable.
  > 
  > C.  Some Emacs newbies try Emacs for the first time at the office.  At
  > the office, ten or more people may hear each beep.  The feeling of
  > having distracted coworkers may make users even more uncomfortable.

FWIW, I find the beep annoying and useless too.  I disable it in .emacs,
but every time I have to use emacs -Q to debug something it gets on my
nerves....






  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-06 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-04 22:51 bug#1305: Please disable the audible bell by default, to avoid discouraging newbies in crowded offices and elsewhere Jason Spiro
2008-11-05  7:25 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-11-06  8:34   ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-09 23:25     ` Xavier Maillard
2008-11-11 19:15       ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-11 20:05         ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-06 23:34 ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2008-11-07  2:19   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-07 10:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 14:54   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-07 16:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 18:48       ` Stefan Monnier

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