From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: Jason Spiro <jasonspiro4@gmail.com>
Cc: 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: bug#1305: Please disable the audible bell by default, to avoid discouraging newbies in crowded offices and elsewhere
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:34:21 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811062334.mA6NYLB6012009@mothra.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ff7ab970811041451y4f755e66o84dc03e992fc8d06@mail.gmail.com> (Jason Spiro's message of "Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:51:13 -0500")
"Jason Spiro" <jasonspiro4@gmail.com> writes:
> By default, Emacs makes an audible beep every time the user makes an
> error. It would be great if you could please change the default
> either:
>
> 1. To not make any audible or visible bell when the user makes an
> error. (This would be best.)
>
> 2. Or to use a visible bell only. (This would be an acceptable
> alternative. Plus, Emacs already knows how to show a visible bell.)
>
> If you do not change the default, some Emacs newbies may decide not to
> use Emacs, but to use other editors instead, perhaps non-Free ones.
> Here are three reasons why they may decide that:
>
> A. Some users find that the beep is harsh and unpleasant to the ear.
>
> B. Most apps beep only when something very bad happens. But Emacs
> beeps even upon minor mistakes like scrolling past end of buffer, or
> pressing an unassigned key. It even beeps on non-mistakes like
> pressing C-g. The amount of beeping may make users uncomfortable.
>
> C. Some Emacs newbies try Emacs for the first time at the office. At
> the office, ten or more people may hear each beep. The feeling of
> having distracted coworkers may make users even more uncomfortable.
FWIW, I find the beep annoying and useless too. I disable it in .emacs,
but every time I have to use emacs -Q to debug something it gets on my
nerves....
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-06 23:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-04 22:51 bug#1305: Please disable the audible bell by default, to avoid discouraging newbies in crowded offices and elsewhere Jason Spiro
2008-11-05 7:25 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-11-06 8:34 ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-09 23:25 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-11-11 19:15 ` Jason Spiro
2008-11-11 20:05 ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-06 23:34 ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2008-11-07 2:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-07 10:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-07 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 18:48 ` Stefan Monnier
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