From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs-w3m question Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:25:20 +0100 Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! Message-ID: <200811031125.mA3BPKiH024523@zogzog.maillard.mobi> References: <87vdvdu4mp.fsf@literaturlatenight.de> <74160b46-e541-436a-a776-c8bd53d6cd55@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <200810302125.m9ULP2AB006684@zogzog.maillard.mobi> <87bpx1g23o.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Xavier Maillard NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225711916 10787 80.91.229.12 (3 Nov 2008 11:31:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Richard Riley Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 03 12:32:56 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kwxfx-0000mI-VJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:32:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51736 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kwxer-0006hH-0n for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:31:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KwxbR-0005rF-EK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:28:13 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KwxbP-0005qe-Jh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:28:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56598 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KwxbP-0005qZ-9C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:28:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:10093) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KwxbO-0001uB-3Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:28:10 -0500 Original-Received: from master.uucpssh.org ([193.218.105.66]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KwxbM-0005xC-Ig for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:28:08 -0500 Original-Received: by master.uucpssh.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 936C4F566C; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:27:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from zogzog.maillard.mobi (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA3BPKa7024524; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:25:20 +0100 Original-Received: (from xma@localhost) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id mA3BPKiH024523; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:25:20 +0100 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Riley on Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:51:19 +0100) User-Agent: Rmail in GNU Emacs 23.0.60.12 on GNU/Linux Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr X-uucpssh: Found to be clean X-uucpssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (SpamAssassin rebuilding) X-uucpssh-From: xma@gnu.org X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59376 Archived-At: Xavier Maillard writes: > Xavier> For your information, many old computers do not have > Xavier> Up/Down/Left/Right keys thus making this as a default won't work > Xavier> for them. I never use these key due to my habits. Therefor > Xavier> I strongly disagree with you on that point. > > Defaults are for newcomers to quickly get hands on the thing. > > I do not see why defaults should apply to newcomers, really. > Defaults must apply to the mass (either power users or newcomers). > > Xavier The mass have arrow keys. As do 99.99999999999999999% of all new comers. Yes I have it on my laptop but I never used them because they are located to an improbable and unpractical location. Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org