From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs-w3m question Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:25:03 +0100 Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! Message-ID: <200811010725.mA17P3Yp010499@zogzog.maillard.mobi> References: <87vdvdu4mp.fsf@literaturlatenight.de> <74160b46-e541-436a-a776-c8bd53d6cd55@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <200810302125.m9ULP2AB006684@zogzog.maillard.mobi> <87bpx1g23o.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Xavier Maillard NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225539417 9439 80.91.229.12 (1 Nov 2008 11:36:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 11:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, xahlee@gmail.com To: Paul R Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 01 12:37:58 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KwEnk-0005il-NN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:37:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34031 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KwEmd-0005wl-LB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:36:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KwElP-0005kM-Lu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:35:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KwElO-0005jZ-HJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33511 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KwElO-0005jQ-92 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: from master.uucpssh.org ([193.218.105.66]:53377) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KwElN-0007HA-ST for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: by master.uucpssh.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 1C09FED86E; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:27:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from zogzog.maillard.mobi (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA17P3oH010504; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:25:03 +0100 Original-Received: (from xma@localhost) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id mA17P3Yp010499; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:25:03 +0100 In-reply-to: <87bpx1g23o.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Paul R on Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:16:59 +0100) User-Agent: Rmail in GNU Emacs 23.0.60.12 on GNU/Linux Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr X-uucpssh: Found to be clean X-uucpssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.367, required 4.6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.03, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_HELO_PASS -0.00) X-uucpssh-From: xma@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59324 Archived-At: Xavier> For your information, many old computers do not have Xavier> Up/Down/Left/Right keys thus making this as a default won't work Xavier> for them. I never use these key due to my habits. Therefor Xavier> I strongly disagree with you on that point. Defaults are for newcomers to quickly get hands on the thing. I do not see why defaults should apply to newcomers, really. Defaults must apply to the mass (either power users or newcomers). Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org