From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs, oldsters, newbiness Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:25:07 +0100 Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! Message-ID: <200810302325.m9UNP7JI012589@zogzog.maillard.mobi> References: <251d6b72-b760-411b-8c35-83a7788e2491@u75g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <56aa1c42-303b-4150-8d96-9159487244e2@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com> <7343b66f-7262-466c-8975-9774dce22d88@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <7bddb878-9f4c-4140-827c-83cd29c96e5f@l77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <372adbcc-d97b-453c-8ddc-3a7f1abb0b23@l62g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <87tzb26y7p.fsf@gmail.com> <87hc6z6nmp.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Xavier Maillard NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225409358 30045 80.91.229.12 (30 Oct 2008 23:29:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kensanata@gmail.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Paul R Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 31 00:30:19 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kvgxw-0006mU-Or for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:30:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56049 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kvgwq-0006E7-3C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:29:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KvgwV-0006DA-G4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:28:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KvgwU-0006CW-UE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:28:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48608 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvgwU-0006CH-N4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:28:42 -0400 Original-Received: from master.uucpssh.org ([193.218.105.66]:38087) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvgwU-0002rc-3L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:28:42 -0400 Original-Received: by master.uucpssh.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 931DAF3E13; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:27:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from zogzog.maillard.mobi (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9UNP7Xl012590; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:25:07 +0100 Original-Received: (from xma@localhost) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m9UNP7JI012589; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:25:07 +0100 In-reply-to: <87hc6z6nmp.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Paul R on Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:40:46 +0100) User-Agent: Rmail in GNU Emacs 23.0.60.12 on GNU/Linux Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr X-uucpssh: Found to be clean X-uucpssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.365, required 4.6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.04, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_HELO_PASS -0.00) X-uucpssh-From: xma@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59275 Archived-At: Hello Lennart, Lennart> I think some people call that second project "Emacs" ;-) Lennart> Why not work on improving the documentation inside the Emacs Lennart> project along those lines? Or is there some problem doing Lennart> that? Even if most of the documentation in Emacs are in Info Lennart> format there are links to other documentation too, in html Lennart> format. For users, Emacs documentation state is bound to an emacs release. This documentation can't change between release, that is why this project would have slighlty different goal. But I agree, the flow of information could be : EmacsWiki ----> Online emacs documentation portal ----> Emacs Info I pretty like this idea. We would have to get tag support in emacswiki to ease information retrieval process. I hope we could make this happen with the help of the emacswiki community. Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org