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From: tomas@tuxteam.de
To: Paul R <paul.r.ml@gmail.com>
Cc: "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>,
	"Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, aaron.s.hawley@gmail.com, dmhouse@gmail.com,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: Specifying mode in file variables trouble
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:55:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080925075544.GA18347@tomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877i90ralp.fsf@gmail.com>

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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 08:41:22AM +0200, Paul R wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
> 
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:28:45 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de said:
> 
> tomas> But I would be wary of pulling in a full-fledged XML machinery
> tomas> just to edit (pure) PHP source [...]

> The line has to be drawn at a point. We probably all agree that emacs
> memory consumption is sufficiently low with respect to current
> hardware. So I beleive this should not drive out features that make
> emacs DTRT when visiting a file.

It's only partially the computer's resources I am worried about. It's my
limited brain. I like the feeling I understand the tools I use (to some
extent).

> tomas> As an analogy, I'm regularly irked by reglar GNU/Linux distros
> tomas> installing Avahi-this or Evolution-that [...]

> I think this a different kind of problem (persistent storage
> consumption). And some distros offer you to choose dependency at build
> time, through build flags. Distros you are talking about are probably
> designed for ease of use and least surprise, and I bet they perform
> very well in this field. Aren't they ?

They do now, but you see a growing tendency of everything-depending-on-
everything-else, which is a pity, really. Because this modularity was a
strength of the UNIX-like systems.

> BTW, I hope we can get emacs distribution more modular during next
> cycle, so that you would not have to download and build a complex php
> mode if you never edit php.

This is a goal in itself, but the point I was trying to make is: if I
was a PHP programmer, I probably wouldn't like to have the whole
XML/HTML kaboodle in that as well *unless I needed it*. It was a plea to
make the mumamo approach itself more modular (I do applaud the multiple
major modes work very strongly!).

Regards
- -- tomas
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-25  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-20  0:44 Specifying mode in file variables trouble Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-20  0:48 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-20  0:59 ` Miles Bader
2008-09-20  1:06   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-21  6:32     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-21 12:33       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-21 23:34         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-22  0:38           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-22  4:39             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-22 13:14               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-22 14:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-22 14:26                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-23  4:40                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-23  9:29                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-23 19:47                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-22 23:11                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-23  4:40                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-23  9:47                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-23 19:47                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-23 20:43                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-24 13:47                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-24 13:47                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-24 17:21                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-25  5:49                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-25  6:28                               ` tomas
2008-09-25  6:41                                 ` Paul R
2008-09-25  7:55                                   ` tomas [this message]
2008-09-25  8:35                                     ` Paul R
2008-09-25 16:42                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2008-09-27  4:39                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-21 19:16                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-10-22  5:21                                     ` tomas
2008-10-22  6:21                                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-23 19:47                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-23 20:37                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-24 13:47                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-24 16:23                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-25  5:50                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-24 23:09                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-23  4:40                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-23  9:57                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-23 16:03                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-23 17:22                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-23 20:33                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-23 20:48                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-23 21:27                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-23 21:30                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-24 20:57                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-24 21:29                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-25 17:46                                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-25 21:34                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-26  4:45                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-26  4:45                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-25 17:46                                     ` Selecting mumamo modes Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-25 21:12                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-26  4:45                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-21 19:20                                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-23 19:47                     ` Specifying mode in file variables trouble Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-23 20:26                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-24 20:56                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-24 21:21                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-25 17:46                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-25 21:36                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-26  4:45                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-24 20:57                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-24 21:45                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-20 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-20 23:34   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)

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