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From: Taylor Venable <taylor@metasyntax.net>
To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: jasonr@gnu.org, 'David House' <dmhouse@gmail.com>,
	'Eli Zaretskii' <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Phil Jackson <phil@shellarchive.co.uk>,
	Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32?
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:03:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080830100336.17179835.taylor@metasyntax.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48B87432.6050902@gmail.com>

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:12:02 +0200
"Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Phil Jackson wrote:
> > "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> >>>> Why not try to take that up with the GNU/Linux developers?
> >>> The simple answer is because the GNU/Linux (or rather, Unix in
> >>> general) architecture does not operate like Windows does with
> >>> respect to this tight level of integration.  Even getting the
> >>> GNOME and KDE guys to use the same place would not solve the
> >>> problem
> >> They should come together and donate their common solution for
> >> trash can handling as something that comes with the system.
> > 
> > But who gets to decide what the 'system' is? I use a very basic
> > tiled window manager and no desktop environment. All of my file
> > manipulation happens in the shell or dired (whichever I'm nearest
> > at the time). So, do rm and emacs need to know about it? Does unlink
> > () need to know about it? The filesystem? The kernel itself?
> 
> As I explained in a previous message, what I propose is an interface
> for trash can handling that always comes with the system. There need
> not be any implementation behind that interface. The deleting routine
> should ask the interface.

This "comes with the system" thing doesn't make very much sense to me.
You could use something like Gentoo where practically everything is
optional, so there is very little idea of what "comes with the system."
I think if you want to address the issue you need to focus on a
specification-compliant desktop environment, rather than saying
"GNU/Linux" because the latter is simply too vague.

-- 
Taylor Venable            http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-30 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-28 22:37 Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-28 23:41 ` Michael Ekstrand
2008-08-29  0:16   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-28 23:42 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-28 23:48   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-28 23:54 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29  0:06   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29  5:39     ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29  6:51       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29  7:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29  7:58       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29  8:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29  8:17           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29  9:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29  9:43               ` David House
2008-08-29 10:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 13:26                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 14:36                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 15:06                     ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 15:11                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-08-29 16:28                         ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 15:39                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-29 16:32                         ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 16:43                           ` David House
2008-08-29 22:12                             ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-30  0:29                               ` David House
2008-08-30  0:33                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30  1:58                                   ` David House
2008-08-31  2:32                         ` Sean Sieger
2008-08-31  2:34                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31  3:28                             ` Sean Sieger
2008-08-29 19:58                       ` Taylor Venable
2008-08-29 20:08                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 20:46                           ` Taylor Venable
2008-08-29 21:00                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 21:59                               ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-29 22:12                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 23:43                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-08-30  9:49                                   ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-30 10:18                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-30 10:43                                       ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-30 20:41                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 14:03                                   ` Taylor Venable [this message]
2008-08-30 14:11                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 22:32                                       ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-08-30 22:40                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31  3:35                                           ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-08-31  3:49                                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 23:04                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31  3:37                                           ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-08-31  6:55                                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31  6:59                                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-08-31  9:31                                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31 13:51                                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-08-31 15:04                                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 16:38                                                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-08-31 17:43                                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31 20:25                                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 10:46                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-29 20:12                         ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 23:43                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-30  0:21                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30  2:16                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-30  5:10                               ` tomas
2008-08-30 21:26                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31  4:53                                   ` tomas
2008-08-31 12:25                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 16:51                                       ` tomas
2008-08-31 20:22                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-01  4:33                                           ` tomas
2008-08-29 10:41                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29 11:35                   ` martin rudalics
2008-08-29 12:16                   ` David House
2008-08-29 13:22                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 13:45               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 14:00                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29 16:16             ` Francis Litterio
2008-08-29  9:19   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-29  8:16 ` David House
2008-08-29  8:18   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29  8:31     ` David House
2008-08-29  8:39       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 10:01 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-08-29 13:28   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 18:37     ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-08-31 12:31       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 19:26         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-31 21:49         ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-08-29 10:57 ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-29 14:35   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 18:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-29 19:59   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30  9:11     ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-30 12:42       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 13:26         ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-30 13:58           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 15:06             ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-30 17:23               ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-30 20:40               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 22:37   ` Thomas Lord
2008-08-30  3:11     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-08-30  9:40       ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-30 10:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-30 15:03         ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-30 20:22           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30  9:36     ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-31  1:30       ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-31  6:22         ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-29 20:24 ` Gilaras Drakeson
2008-08-29 20:56   ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 21:05     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 21:11       ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 21:13         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 21:20           ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 21:54             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 22:20               ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 22:25                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 22:17   ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-30  3:14     ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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