From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:20:57 +0000 Message-ID: <20080813092057.GA3010@muc.de> References: <10697146.3630221218551689983.JavaMail.www@wwinf4615> <20080812171404.GB7999@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218619341 17980 80.91.229.12 (13 Aug 2008 09:22:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: alinsoar@voila.fr, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Richard M. Stallman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 11:23:12 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KTCYz-0005jF-PU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:22:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35412 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTCY3-0004vR-73 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:21:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTCVP-0003Is-UP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTCVO-0003Hv-Ei for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39813 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTCVO-0003Ha-2C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:18:58 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:3974 helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTCVN-0000Zm-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:18:57 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 67212 invoked by uid 3782); 13 Aug 2008 09:18:55 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9E23735.dip.t-dialin.net [217.226.55.53]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:18:53 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3111 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Aug 2008 09:20:57 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102399 Archived-At: Hi, Richard, On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 02:26:36AM -0400, Richard M. Stallman wrote: > In the field I work in (embedded systems), our targets are very > often Unix-like OSs (e.g. QNX), our host systems are (nearly) > always Windows, > It is a shame to use Windows for that. Why not switch to GNU/Linux? It's a great shame. Why not switch? Because the host system is a massive company Windows network, much more like a mainframe than a stand alone PC. Things like Email and Word processing (with yucky formats) are done on it. And backing up files. For such a company, software development is merely one department, and not even the most important. Switching to GNU is possible in principle, but it's difficult, time-consuming and expensive. The city administration in Munich is doing this, for example. Probably, some medium to large size compaies are, too. But yes, it's a great shame. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).