From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VMS support Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:06:30 -0700 Message-ID: <200807271906.m6RJ6VOw008253@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <87iquzmcxm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4l76ntu.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <8763qznhfd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87k5fcc2ui.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <873alz681f.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <200807241655.m6OGtiqp008494@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200807271841.m6RIftSS024933@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217188747 4512 80.91.229.12 (27 Jul 2008 19:59:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thien-Thi Nguyen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 27 21:59:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KNCPE-0007RF-JW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:59:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52349 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNBcK-0006tN-Hd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:09:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KNBcF-0006t6-T6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:09:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KNBcA-0006sJ-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:09:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46635 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNBcA-0006sG-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:09:06 -0400 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]:55114) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KNBcA-0005ZW-14 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:09:06 -0400 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1217790391.18258@MuQKWWweYRprIn0Cgr8WrQ Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m6RJ6VOw008253; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:06:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:48:25 -0400") Original-Lines: 16 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101583 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > > Doing this a one big commit is _extremely_ inconvenient. A thorough > > removal can be done in steps too, and tags can help sort out the changes > > easily. The unnecessary red tape just adds extra work for absolutely > > zero gain. > > Can't imagine why it's so inconvenient. Care to give some example of > the difficulties it adds? If you only can spend a few minutes at a time when doing this (and I do), you can't write ChangeLogs when doing the work because they will conflict on updates. When updating you get unnecessary conflicts that need to be resolved. When working offline you can't cvs remove files. If you cvs remove files before tagging, the tag won't apply to that file. And probably more. On the other hand the gain is inexistent.