From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Davison Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:56:56 +0100 Message-ID: <20080722135656.GB7226@stats.ox.ac.uk> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87mykaw8sb.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216735084 11725 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 13:58:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 15:58:53 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLIO4-00078P-B7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:58:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36347 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLINB-0007ES-00 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:57:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLIMT-0006uE-65 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:57:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLIMP-0006q6-FY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49071 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLIMP-0006pw-BI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from markov.stats.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.210.1]:61888) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLIMO-0003Wo-Rr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from blackcap.stats.ox.ac.uk (blackcap.stats [163.1.210.5]) by markov.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6MDuu3B024471; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:56:56 +0100 (BST) Original-Received: by blackcap.stats.ox.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 5158) id 976BE18080; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:56:56 +0100 (BST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55800 Archived-At: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:14:20PM +0200, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 13:50, Juanma wrote: > > > And why should "shortcut" be more fitting than "keybinding"? > > I don't know. I'm not even defending the idea that "shortcut" is more > fitting. If anything, I'm defending the idea that "keybinding" is not > very good, not because of any intrinsic quality or defect of the term > "keybinding", just because it is a bit too specifically emacsy for > something that many other programs allow, under a different name. The > best name is the one the users understand more easily (whichever it > may be). Oh, I don't think I agree with that sort of lowest-common-denominator linguistic relativism at all! That sort of attitude, combined with neutral drift over time will result in a terrible, ugly, language with no accuracy or etymological coherency whatsoever! DAn