From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Davison Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: cursor/tab/highlighting problems in gnome-terminal Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:08:15 +0100 Message-ID: <20080715110815.GA8319@stats.ox.ac.uk> References: <20080711104602.GA17131@stats.ox.ac.uk> <87wsjpzml1.fsf@edna.homeunix.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216120184 28658 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2008 11:09:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Joel J. Adamson" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 15 13:10:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KIiQM-0002xI-0t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:10:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43327 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIiPT-0003Qb-Ju for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:09:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIiOf-0002xQ-2N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:08:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIiOd-0002uj-2e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:08:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50700 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIiOc-0002uZ-Mj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:08:38 -0400 Original-Received: from markov.stats.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.210.1]:54565) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KIiOc-0003g0-94 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:08:38 -0400 Original-Received: from blackcap.stats.ox.ac.uk (blackcap.stats [163.1.210.5]) by markov.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6FB8JeG007657; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:08:19 +0100 (BST) Original-Received: by blackcap.stats.ox.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 5158) id 37C221807C; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:08:19 +0100 (BST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87wsjpzml1.fsf@edna.homeunix.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55596 Archived-At: On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 02:05:30PM -0400, Joel J. Adamson wrote: > Dan Davison writes: > > > I'm using emacs22 in a gnome-terminal under ubuntu hardy. > > Why? Quick edits? Remote session? I'm a command-line oriented linux user who for the last few years was using a fairly aggressively minimalistic window manager (ion3). However I finally decided I wasn't going to invest enough time in the necessary lua scripting, and gave in and switched to gnome. Then, I'm slightly embarrased to admit, I got hooked on all the sliding between multiple desktops, zooming out and seeing all 9 of them, transparency effects, etc, of compiz. So to answer your question, I use bash shells a lot, and I use emacs a lot. I want all my bash/emacs sessions to have the same 'feel' (same colours, fonts, transparency, lack of unnecessary adornments) and that was easy to set up by running emacs without X in gnome-terminals. gnome just provides a desktop background image (no icons!!!). I don't have menu bars or scrollbars or anything, and I can't see anything desirable about the gtk version of emacs, but would be happy to be corrected on this stance. > > For whatever reason you're running in a terminal, there's probably > another way to do what you want with the X interface. > > Also, xterm is a highly under-rated terminal emulator, and is very > configurable (give the man page a look). Ermm, I'm a bit addicted to semi-transparency currently. I don't think I can have that with xterm? > > Perhaps your problem is in how you choose to set things up, rather than > a real Emacs problem? I do appreciate your suggestion. However ubuntu's default gnome-terminal is otherwise giving me a nice experience and was very simple to configure (automatically inherits nice-looking system fonts, colours in bash via dircolors, transparency via idiots' sliding bar in gtk configuration dialogue box, window decoration via beryl/emerald) Dan > > Joel > -- > Joel J. Adamson > (303) 880-3109 > Public key: http://pgp.mit.edu > http://www.unc.edu/~adamsonj > http://trashbird1240.blogspot.com