From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:56:51 +0000 Message-ID: <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216063886 31667 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2008 19:31:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, drobinow@gmail.com To: Richard M Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 14 21:32:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KITmM-0008Ae-1J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:32:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51096 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KITlT-0004R3-Py for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:31:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KITlQ-0004Qy-2e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:31:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KITlN-0004Qa-Bz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:31:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42857 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KITlN-0004QX-4x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:1050 helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KITlN-0007tl-4y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 32877 invoked by uid 3782); 14 Jul 2008 19:31:06 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9E53A92.dip.t-dialin.net [217.229.58.146]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:31:02 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 10673 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Jul 2008 19:56:51 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100695 Archived-At: 'Evening, Richard! On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 01:38:28PM -0400, Richard M Stallman wrote: > Richard, you're perhaps the brightest guy around, here. How long > did it take you to get your first GNU/Linux installation installed > and _fully_ working (i.e. all peripherals, networking, X-Windows, > email, web-browsing, .... all satisfactory)? > I have never done this myself. Perhaps that's why I am the brightest > guy around ;-). That's wonderful! :-) > Actually, what's best to do depends on your goals. If your wish is to > get a machine running ASAP, ask (or even pay) an expert to do it. If > your wish is to learn more about GNU/Linux system administration, > installing it yourself is a good way to learn. > foryou I suppose it never really occurred to me to get help. Hey, I'm a hacker, an expert, I can do anything!!!! But, I can get bored to tears as easily as the next man. You know, Richard, if by some accident of history you had somehow come to write a Texinfo manual for GNU/Linux network configuration, the free software world would now be a much happier place. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).