From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fix UK spelling in comments and ChangeLog entries? Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:05:16 +0000 Message-ID: <20080630120516.GB2910@muc.de> References: <85skuva3zx.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20080630094906.GA2910@muc.de> <85iqvr8di8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214826089 636 80.91.229.12 (30 Jun 2008 11:41:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 30 13:42:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KDHlZ-0004uu-Id for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:41:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57584 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KDHkj-0001iu-BV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:41:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KDHke-0001ig-D2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:40:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KDHkc-0001hz-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:40:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43356 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KDHkc-0001hw-A4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:40:54 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:2545 helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KDHkb-000563-C5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:40:53 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 78744 invoked by uid 3782); 30 Jun 2008 11:40:51 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9E23803.dip.t-dialin.net [217.226.56.3]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:40:48 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 5555 invoked by uid 1000); 30 Jun 2008 12:05:16 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <85iqvr8di8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100214 Archived-At: Hi, David and everybody else! On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:42:55AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Alan Mackenzie writes: [ .... ] > Anyway, the point is that Emacs _has_ chosen a language for its > documentation. It would be out of place if I commented my > contributions in German, so why should others document in British? We > also have coding conventions we retain. Well, I believe German was considered at one point, but with a right margin (now) of only 65 in doc strings, that would exclude too many words for German to be practical. [ .... ] > > So, yes, on balance, I would prefer British spellings to be left > > alone in my Changelog entries and comments, but if Greg or anybody > > else wants to "correct" them, it won't really bother me at all. > > There's more pressing things to worry about. > The problem is that ChangeLog entries can become NEWS eventually, and > comments become DOC strings. And all are things people tend to grep > for. And yes, this thread has been about "anybody else" wanting to > correct things, not about rejecting contributions or tying down > resources people want to spend elsewhere. Sorry, just to clarify, I meant that there're more pressing things for _me_ to worry about than moaning about my comments/ChangeLog entries being changed. So if somebody does it, I won't moan, I won't even feel resentful. > > In a way, it's a bit like rigorously (no asides here, please!) > > enforcing a particular way of laying out C code; lots of coding shops > > in the proprietary world try (mostly half-heartedly) to do this, and > > most hackers just ignore the silly rules. Following them would wipe > > out useful information about who wrote what. > We have Elisp coding conventions in Emacs, and C coding conventions, and > yes, adhering to them is strongly desired. Nobody complained about that > as far as I remember. Well, the GNU coding standards, unlike most ones in the "real world", are sensible, and GNU provides a way of adhering to them without effort (at least, without effort apart from mine). > -- > David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).