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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>,
	eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, rgm@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fix UK spelling in comments and ChangeLog entries?
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:49:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080630094906.GA2910@muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85skuva3zx.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

Morning, David and everybody else!

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 07:25:22AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:

> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 00:05, Richard M Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

> >> Are you accusing me of being inconsistent, then ;-)?

> > Well, now that you mention it...

> >> But here there is no sacrifice.  If Glenn wants to spend his time
> >> this way, why argue?

> > Fair enough. My comments are only because I think some of the authors
> > of the entries would want their linguistic flavour preserved.

> Well, those authors are presumably reading the Emacs developer list
> when they are bothered about what happens "downstream" with their
> contribution.  So they can speak up for themselves.

So I can.  British spellings, etymologically more accurate, refined and
cultured, are clearly so superior to ignorant and vulgar Americanisms,
that it vexes me that Emacs has chosen to use the latter.  I mean,
"color" is something you wear round your neck, isn't it?  And surely if
the Americans had had the moral character to retain proper spelling, they
wouldn't have brutishly, arrogantly and indiscriminately kidnapped
several hundred men, detained them unlawfully in Cuba for many years and
tortured them.  Although this is intuitively obvious, it's a little
difficult to demonstrate scientifically.  Hey, I can't help the
prejudices of my upbringing, though I try.  Sometimes. ;-)

So, yes, on balance, I would prefer British spellings to be left alone in
my Changelog entries and comments, but if Greg or anybody else wants to
"correct" them, it won't really bother me at all.  There's more pressing
things to worry about.

> There is no need to invent hypothetical people to complicate things.

Indeed not, when hypothetical people actually exist and are complicating
things quite enough as it is.

> > It is akin to making a pass and removing the lighthearted or ironic
> > comments (and there are quite a few of them).

> No, it isn't.

I think it is.

In a way, it's a bit like rigorously (no asides here, please!) enforcing
a particular way of laying out C code; lots of coding shops in the
proprietary world try (mostly half-heartedly) to do this, and most
hackers just ignore the silly rules.  Following them would wipe out
useful information about who wrote what. 

> David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-30  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1KC8XT-0007F3-Io@monty-python.gnu.org>
2008-06-27  9:21 ` Fix UK spelling in comments and ChangeLog entries? Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-27  9:48   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-27  9:50   ` Miles Bader
2008-06-27 10:56     ` Miles Bader
2008-06-27 11:40       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-27 12:01         ` Miles Bader
2008-06-27 13:43           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-27 18:14           ` Glenn Morris
2008-06-27 19:10             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-27 19:28             ` Jason Rumney
2008-06-28 13:20               ` Richard M Stallman
2008-06-28 15:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-28 21:19                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-06-28 21:30                   ` Miles Bader
2008-06-28 21:47                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-06-28 22:45                     ` Jason Rumney
2008-06-28  6:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-29  9:52               ` Richard M Stallman
2008-06-29 10:13                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-29 11:06                   ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-29 11:57                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-29 18:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-29 19:53                       ` Sam Steingold
2008-06-29 20:00                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-06-30 14:43                           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-06-29 20:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-29 20:57                           ` David Kastrup
2008-06-29 22:05                   ` Richard M Stallman
2008-06-29 22:26                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-29 22:29                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-30  5:25                       ` David Kastrup
2008-06-30  7:48                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-30  8:16                           ` David Kastrup
2008-06-30  8:18                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-30  9:49                         ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2008-06-30  9:42                           ` David Kastrup
2008-06-30 10:07                             ` Nick Roberts
2008-06-30 12:05                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-06-30 20:02                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-01 11:06                             ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-01 11:12                               ` David Kastrup
2008-07-01 12:19                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-01  7:36                           ` Johannes Weiner
2008-07-01 12:40                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-01 14:10                               ` Johannes Weiner
2008-06-27  9:56   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-27 10:05     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-27 10:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-27 10:23         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-27 12:16       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-27 12:30         ` Miles Bader
2008-06-27 12:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-27 12:52           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-27 16:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-27 16:54             ` Agustin Martin
2008-06-28  2:01               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-27 13:46         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-28  1:02           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-28  1:07             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-28  1:50               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-30 13:43         ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-06-30 13:33           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-06-30 13:39             ` David Kastrup
2008-06-30 13:59               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-06-30 14:43             ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-06-30 18:23             ` Johan Bockgård
2008-06-30 18:40               ` David Kastrup
2008-06-30 20:32           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-01  1:04           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-06-27 15:38   ` Richard M Stallman
2008-06-27 16:55     ` Eli Zaretskii

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