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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 52, Issue 61
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:20:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080607132037.GA21979@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080607125159.8A74F9F05B4@grelber.thyrsus.com>

emacs-devel-request@gnu.org <emacs-devel-request@gnu.org>:
> > > Whatever the reason, this is a horrendous time sink.  Failure to
> > > build the CVS head should essentially _never_ happen - possibly once
> > > or twice a year at most.
> 
> > Sorry, but it's hopelessly unrealistic to request that.  Given the
> > number of different platforms we support, it is impractical even to
> > request that any given change will compile on all of them, let alone
> > build without a hitch.
> 
> OK.  I have an utterly standard, if somewhat old, GNU/Linux box, probably
> the most popular setup.  I think it's reasonable to expect the trunk to
> build on my box nearly all the time.  Possibly on w32, too.

I agree with this complaint, and I'm getting extremely frustrated.  I
have been unable to work on vc.el for about *two weeks* now because
the recommended "make maintainer-clean; configure; make bootstrap"
consistently fails with this:

make[3]: *** No rule to make target `/home/esr/cvs/emacs/lisp/nxml/nxml-enc.elc', needed by `compile-main'.  Stop.

This is on stock Ubuntu 8.04.  Whoever said expecting builds in CVS to
work consistently was "hopelessly unrealistic" is simply revealing that the 
Emacs system is broken as designed.  Maybe this is a *reason* we have so 
few developers?
-- 
		<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>




       reply	other threads:[~2008-06-07 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080607125159.8A74F9F05B4@grelber.thyrsus.com>
2008-06-07 13:20 ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2008-06-07 14:14   ` Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 52, Issue 61 Alan Mackenzie
2008-06-07 14:07     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-07 15:24       ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-06-07 15:29         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-07 16:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-07 18:34           ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-06-07 19:39             ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-06-07 19:53             ` Glenn Morris
2008-06-07 20:10               ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-06-07 20:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-07 21:12                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-06-08  2:49                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-07 21:26                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-06-07 21:13                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-06-08  8:21                 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-06-07 21:15               ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-06-07 19:37           ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-06-07 19:40             ` David Kastrup
2008-06-07 22:14             ` Nick Roberts
2008-06-07 22:42               ` joakim
2008-06-07 22:47               ` David Kastrup
2008-06-08  2:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-08  2:50               ` Miles Bader
2008-06-10 10:36             ` use git, not cvs Jim Meyering
2008-06-10 10:42               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-10 11:00                 ` Jim Meyering
2008-06-10 11:02                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-10 11:08               ` Miles Bader
2008-06-10 11:16                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-10 11:27                   ` Miles Bader
2008-06-10 11:30                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-06-10 11:34                     ` Jim Meyering
2008-06-10 11:20                 ` Jim Meyering
2008-06-10 11:26                   ` Nick Roberts
2008-06-10 14:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-07 19:35       ` Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 52, Issue 61 Eric S. Raymond
2008-06-07 14:20   ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-07 14:23   ` Miles Bader
2008-06-07 19:41     ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-06-07 20:28       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-08  0:50     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-06-08  0:42       ` David Kastrup
2008-06-07 14:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-07 19:55     ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-06-07 20:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-07 21:26         ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-06-07 22:52           ` Thomas Lord
2008-06-08  0:58             ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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