From: tomas@tuxteam.de
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, tomas@tuxteam.de,
Florian Beck <abstraktion@t-online.de>,
Paul R <paul.r.ml@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:41:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080605124158.GA28579@tomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr6bcea8e.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
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On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 01:15:59AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Or just not tacitly assume that the machine Emacs is running
> > on is on the 'net (Horrors!).
[...]
> A properly configured `sendmail' will handle this just fine, stashing
> the message somewhere so it can be sent later on when the destination
> is reachable.
Actually no. As a counterexample, for my laptop, "the destination" will
never be "reachable" (smtp-wise). I have an smtp running on it because my
distro insists on it and I don't feel like fighting it. I'm sure there
are lots of people aut there with this kind of set-up.
> That's why a properly configured `sendmail' is the right solution.
> Too bad the rest of the world doesn't understand it,
:-)
I have some sympathy for this view... good old times of the UNIX
workstation. But nowadays (for the typical GNU/Linux), the end user
just configures her MUA to talk to some external smtp server (at best).
There is some local smtp thingie (exim or postfix) running and collecting
the complaints of some quirky subsystems (e.g. cron) which prefer to
mail their logs instead of logging them. They land on some mailbox
(typically root) and never get read. The Emacs bug report goes there
too. For a long sleep :-)
Regards
- -- tomás
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-05 12:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-30 12:59 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently Florian Beck
2008-05-30 13:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-30 21:42 ` Florian Beck
2008-05-30 21:52 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-31 0:44 ` Florian Beck
2008-05-31 9:18 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-31 10:56 ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-01 2:47 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-01 8:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-31 9:53 ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-01 2:54 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-01 7:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-06-02 0:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-02 2:13 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-02 2:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05 5:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05 11:53 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-05 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05 14:28 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-06 6:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-06 19:04 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-06-07 1:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-07 2:28 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-07 14:23 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-07 7:50 ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-13 4:15 ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-06-13 14:17 ` bug#404: " Stefan Monnier
2008-06-13 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-13 17:30 ` bug#404: marked as done (23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently) Emacs bug Tracking System
2008-06-02 8:07 ` 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently Paul R
2008-06-02 18:56 ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-02 19:15 ` Paul R
2008-06-03 8:26 ` tomas
2008-06-05 5:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05 12:41 ` tomas [this message]
2008-06-05 16:43 ` Don Armstrong
2008-06-05 19:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-01 5:36 ` Chong Yidong
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