From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:26:35 +0200 Message-ID: <20080603082635.GB13718@tomas> References: <4840084C.2020405@gmail.com> <87d4n3ii41.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <48407716.5080704@gmail.com> <874p8fi9op.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <87od6lc1bd.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <87skvwdztw.fsf@gmail.com> <87fxrvejho.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212481587 19407 80.91.229.12 (3 Jun 2008 08:26:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Florian Beck , Stefan Monnier To: Paul R Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 03 10:27:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K3RrC-0001Qa-IH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:27:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41893 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K3RqQ-0005Gy-9R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:26:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K3RqM-0005F5-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:26:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K3RqL-0005CE-0n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:26:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37155 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K3RqK-0005CB-Tg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:26:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:56486) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K3RqK-0004C1-SO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:26:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:48044) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K3RoW-0000eD-UR for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:24:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K3RqH-0004BN-9S for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:26:08 -0400 Original-Received: from alextrapp1.equinoxe.de ([217.22.192.104]:46591 helo=www.elogos.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K3RqG-0004B1-Uk for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:26:05 -0400 Original-Received: by www.elogos.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2D88090164; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:26:35 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87fxrvejho.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98289 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:22548 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 09:15:31PM +0200, Paul R wrote: > Reiner Steib writes: >=20 > > [So you mean `smtpmail.el'?] AFAIK many (corporate) firewall > > configurations (and ISPs) won't allow outgoing connections from > > clients on port 25. >=20 > That's a serious limitation, indeed. >=20 > > Instead of this, we should better work on a simple web based bug > > submission form which can be sent to the bugtracker via Emacs' url > > library (or emacs-w3m?). >=20 > Sending mail through http :) > In the same spirit, we can make it send mail to an ssl-only smtp > server listening to 443. This should pass through corporate firewalls. Or just not tacitly assume that the machine Emacs is running on is on the 'net (Horrors!). Maybe the user just wants to generate a bug report, save it on an USB stick and mail it later. Ask the user, I'd say, then try a couple of possibilities _if_ she said "dunno", then maybe give up loudly and offer to save if all those alternatives fail. Regards - -- tom=C3=A1s -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIRQA7Bcgs9XrR2kYRAoodAJ99RSN0xGLM0X5Dyuo6GujC4kaydQCdGMHO mszuODt6xtDjsadNQz9+M5Y=3D =3DGjup -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----