From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Don Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#335: bug tracking system leads to duplicate replies appearing Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:20:31 -0700 Message-ID: <20080530032031.GJ3071@rzlab.ucr.edu> References: <86r6bkwxmw.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> Reply-To: Don Armstrong , 335@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212118324 5138 80.91.229.12 (30 May 2008 03:32:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 03:32:04 +0000 (UTC) To: Joe Wells , 335@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 05:32:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K1vM9-0005qd-9R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 05:32:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59852 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K1vLN-00066D-LQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:31:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K1vLJ-00065U-Kj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:31:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K1vLH-00064K-52 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:31:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48436 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K1vLH-00064F-0E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:31:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:37825) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K1vLG-0007sJ-OQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:31:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4U3Viv2012047; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:31:44 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4U3U3MO010935; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:30:03 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Don Armstrong Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 03:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 335 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 335-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B335.12121176449702 (code B ref 335); Fri, 30 May 2008 03:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 335) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 30 May 2008 03:20:44 +0000 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (archimedes.ucr.edu [138.23.92.79]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with SMTP id m4U3KVKe009696; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:20:32 -0700 Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 27576 invoked by uid 1000); Fri, 30 May 2008 03:20:31 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: Joe Wells , 335@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86r6bkwxmw.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:31:48 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:18186 Archived-At: On Thu, 29 May 2008, Joe Wells wrote: > I believe this is due to messages being addressed to both > bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org and XYZ@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com where XYZ > is the bug number. When someone follows up, their message gets sent > to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org twice, because everything sent to > XYZ@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com will also be sent onward to > bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org. This is because people are using reply-to-all, instead of reply-to-list or reply-to. I can resolve this by discarding duplicate message ids, but thats more of a sledgehammer. Far better would be for people to stop being silly and using reply-to-all, and instead use reply-to-list or reply-to, both of which are set properly and behave correctly. =20 > Interestingly, by the time these two copies show up in the > gnu.emacs.bug USENET newsgroup, they have the two different message > IDs and > . > > By the way, it seems at first glance that none of these are the > original message ID of Stefan's message, but instead these are fresh > message IDs chosen by the bug tracking software and mailing list > software. At least the two message IDs that begin with =E2=80=9Cmailman= =E2=80=9D are > definitely fresh. These pieces of software should *not* be making up > fresh message IDs.=20 Debbugs has nothing to do with these message IDs; it adds Resent-Message-Id: for the messages which it forwards, and retains the original Message-Id:. Most likely this is something to do with the mailman list-to-news gateway. Don Armstrong --=20 To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research. -- Steven Wright http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu