From: tomas@tuxteam.de
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>,
Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Emacs-Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: face-remapping patch
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:02:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080529060227.GA6897@tomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85ej7mi30t.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:31:46PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> Sorry, C-c C-c is just too close to C-x C-x. This posting was not
> finished.
>
> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
[...]
> > (make-local-variable VARIABLE &optional locus)
> >
> > Make VARIABLE have a separate value in the given locus (defaulting to
> > the current buffer).
> >
> > A locus can be a buffer, a frame, a terminal, a window. When there is
> > more than one locus for which a variable may be local, the value is used
> > from the first locus in the list window - buffer - frame - terminal.
[...]
> Bing. A simple API, easy to understand, easy to use. And
> _transparent_.
Appealing. Humble suggestion: make the list of possible loci extensible,
with the above mentioned being the minimal, "built-in" set. I don't know
yet how an interface would look like, but several other classes of loci
suggest themselves: major modes, (human) languages, what not.
> Now XEmacs specifiers offer something more: you can specify local values
> for _classes_ of display, like B&W, or reduced color or so. We have
> something like that for faces.
Hm. Would that not be covered by your proposal? You'd just need a little
bit more of indirection. Your locus-local variable (locus=terminal) wouldn't
be a face itself, but a display class -- which then determines the face.
Whether it's worth it -- I don't know.
> However, I don't think the price for the generality of specifiers is
> worth the complexity in the particular implementation and documentation
> state of XEmacs. I did not understand them after trying for a
> considerable amount of time, and I am arrogant enough to consider
> something which I feel unable to understand as being off the complexity
> bell curve for reliable engineering.
:-)
Still I read your posts carefully.
Regards
- -- tomás
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-29 6:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-27 2:49 face-remapping patch Miles Bader
2008-05-28 2:03 ` Florian Beck
2008-05-28 2:31 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-29 1:38 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-28 2:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-28 3:30 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 7:22 ` David Reitter
2008-05-28 7:29 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 8:05 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 9:30 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-28 13:13 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 13:33 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-28 9:33 ` David Reitter
2008-05-28 13:21 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 14:33 ` David Reitter
2008-05-28 19:25 ` Face realization (was: face-remapping patch) Stefan Monnier
2008-05-28 19:54 ` David Reitter
2008-05-29 15:25 ` Face realization Stefan Monnier
2008-05-28 19:25 ` face-remapping patch Stefan Monnier
2008-05-28 20:21 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-28 20:31 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-29 6:02 ` tomas [this message]
2008-05-29 18:14 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-29 22:15 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-30 4:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-30 13:32 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-30 13:50 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-31 15:17 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-31 15:38 ` David Kastrup
2008-06-01 14:03 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-29 10:25 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-29 11:14 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-29 15:45 ` Specifiers (was: face-remapping patch) Stefan Monnier
2008-05-29 16:21 ` Specifiers David Kastrup
2008-05-29 17:36 ` Specifiers Stefan Monnier
2008-05-29 18:17 ` Specifiers Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-30 2:08 ` Specifiers (was: face-remapping patch) Richard M Stallman
2008-05-30 2:21 ` Specifiers Stefan Monnier
2008-05-30 5:31 ` Specifiers David Kastrup
2008-05-30 14:10 ` Specifiers Stefan Monnier
2008-05-30 14:14 ` Specifiers David Kastrup
2008-05-30 15:11 ` Specifiers Stefan Monnier
2008-05-31 15:16 ` Specifiers Richard M Stallman
2008-05-29 15:56 ` face-remapping patch Stefan Monnier
2008-05-29 16:27 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-29 8:47 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-29 15:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-29 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-30 3:42 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 14:46 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-28 14:57 ` David Reitter
2008-05-28 16:33 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-30 15:10 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-01 2:43 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 16:37 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-28 17:45 ` Miles Bader
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