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From: tomas@tuxteam.de
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>,
	Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Emacs-Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: face-remapping patch
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:02:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080529060227.GA6897@tomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85ej7mi30t.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:31:46PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> 
> Sorry, C-c C-c is just too close to C-x C-x.  This posting was not
> finished.
> 
> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

> > (make-local-variable VARIABLE &optional locus)
> >
> > Make VARIABLE have a separate value in the given locus (defaulting to
> > the current buffer).
> >
> > A locus can be a buffer, a frame, a terminal, a window.  When there is
> > more than one locus for which a variable may be local, the value is used
> > from the first locus in the list window - buffer - frame - terminal.
[...]
> Bing.  A simple API, easy to understand, easy to use.  And
> _transparent_.

Appealing. Humble suggestion: make the list of possible loci extensible,
with the above mentioned being the minimal, "built-in" set. I don't know
yet how an interface would look like, but several other classes of loci
suggest themselves: major modes, (human) languages, what not.

> Now XEmacs specifiers offer something more: you can specify local values
> for _classes_ of display, like B&W, or reduced color or so.  We have
> something like that for faces.

Hm. Would that not be covered by your proposal? You'd just need a little
bit more of indirection. Your locus-local variable (locus=terminal) wouldn't
be a face itself, but a display class -- which then determines the face.

Whether it's worth it -- I don't know.

> However, I don't think the price for the generality of specifiers is
> worth the complexity in the particular implementation and documentation
> state of XEmacs.  I did not understand them after trying for a
> considerable amount of time, and I am arrogant enough to consider
> something which I feel unable to understand as being off the complexity
> bell curve for reliable engineering.

:-)

Still I read your posts carefully.

Regards
- -- tomás
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-29  6:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-27  2:49 face-remapping patch Miles Bader
2008-05-28  2:03 ` Florian Beck
2008-05-28  2:31   ` Miles Bader
2008-05-29  1:38   ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-28  2:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-28  3:30   ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28  7:22     ` David Reitter
2008-05-28  7:29       ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28  8:05         ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28  9:30           ` David Kastrup
2008-05-28 13:13             ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 13:33               ` David Kastrup
2008-05-28  9:33         ` David Reitter
2008-05-28 13:21           ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 14:33             ` David Reitter
2008-05-28 19:25           ` Face realization (was: face-remapping patch) Stefan Monnier
2008-05-28 19:54             ` David Reitter
2008-05-29 15:25               ` Face realization Stefan Monnier
2008-05-28 19:25       ` face-remapping patch Stefan Monnier
2008-05-28 20:21         ` David Kastrup
2008-05-28 20:31           ` David Kastrup
2008-05-29  6:02             ` tomas [this message]
2008-05-29 18:14             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-29 22:15               ` David Kastrup
2008-05-30  4:48                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-30 13:32               ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-30 13:50                 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-31 15:17                   ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-31 15:38                     ` David Kastrup
2008-06-01 14:03                       ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-29 10:25           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-29 11:14             ` David Kastrup
2008-05-29 15:45           ` Specifiers (was: face-remapping patch) Stefan Monnier
2008-05-29 16:21             ` Specifiers David Kastrup
2008-05-29 17:36               ` Specifiers Stefan Monnier
2008-05-29 18:17               ` Specifiers Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-30  2:08             ` Specifiers (was: face-remapping patch) Richard M Stallman
2008-05-30  2:21               ` Specifiers Stefan Monnier
2008-05-30  5:31                 ` Specifiers David Kastrup
2008-05-30 14:10                   ` Specifiers Stefan Monnier
2008-05-30 14:14                     ` Specifiers David Kastrup
2008-05-30 15:11                       ` Specifiers Stefan Monnier
2008-05-31 15:16                         ` Specifiers Richard M Stallman
2008-05-29 15:56           ` face-remapping patch Stefan Monnier
2008-05-29 16:27             ` David Kastrup
2008-05-29  8:47   ` Miles Bader
2008-05-29 15:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-29 18:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-30  3:42       ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 14:46 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-28 14:57   ` David Reitter
2008-05-28 16:33   ` Miles Bader
2008-05-30 15:10     ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-01  2:43       ` Miles Bader
2008-05-28 16:37 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-28 17:45   ` Miles Bader

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