From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 19:06:50 -0700 Message-ID: <200805040206.m4426oct013714@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <5jr6clncn8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87od7p22dw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200805021331.m42DVYVw016584@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200805021610.m42GAhkE001271@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209866837 5725 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2008 02:07:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 02:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , Chong Yidong , Nick Roberts , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 04 04:07:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JsTdm-0001uM-Lm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 May 2008 04:07:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56856 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JsTd5-0004Bi-7v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 May 2008 22:07:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JsTd2-0004B7-G0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 May 2008 22:07:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JsTd1-0004Av-TT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 May 2008 22:07:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43100 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JsTd1-0004As-Q9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 May 2008 22:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JsTcx-0006Wz-83; Sat, 03 May 2008 22:06:59 -0400 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1210471612.55782@thmI1s/QflRnZD+GosmuVA Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4426oct013714; Sat, 3 May 2008 19:06:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Sun, 04 May 2008 10:25:55 +0900") Original-Lines: 40 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96411 Archived-At: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu writes: > >>>>> On Sat, 03 May 2008 17:56:03 -0700, Dan Nicolaescu said: > > > Yidong, does this work OK with the goals for the 22 branch? Allow > > development for the Mac, and only minor bug fixes for the other > > platforms? Will a quick security fix release work in this scenario? > > Of course, these changes have been made in a way that the branch is > always ready to a sudden release. That is not the issue here, the issue is in the lines excessively trimmed: do the stated rules for "only minor fixes" apply everywhere or there are some exceptions. And if there are exceptions, what are those exceptions. > >> What was the motivation to do that then? If you were familiar with > >> either Carbon or multi-tty, I could understand that. Did you want > >> to pretend as if multi-tty was ready to get merged to the trunk? > > > Thanks again, questioning a gift and bashing the giver is indeed the > > ideal way to treat the giver. No good deed should ever go > > unpunished! > > It seemed to me that you just superficially removed compilation > errors, with minimal test (you said that it was minimally-tested). > Just like you literally replaced `next-line' with `forward-line' to > remove byte-compiler warnings without considering their meanings. Thank you yet again for your graciousness! Again given statements like: "As for Mac, I'm planning to quit the development of the Carbon port for Emacs 23, as the Cocoa/GNUstep port will replace it on that version. So, personally I don't care if multitty is incompatible with the current Carbon code as long as it is not for Emacs 22.x (x > 1)." and the excellent job at whining, moaning and dissing the multi-tty effort, coupled with no code/documentation or any other type of positive contribution should be appreciated as a great upper hand that can be used to disparage volunteer work by other people. Marvelous!