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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94920 Archived-At: --Sig_/o/msHGwGREpRdJZITfLfHMm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:27:57 +0200 "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" wrote: > Juanma Barranquero wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Nick Roberts > > wrote: > >=20 > >> I guess > >> the dangers generally outweigh the advantages but there's not > >> much point in marking them obsolete if they're never going to be > >> removed. > >=20 > > I agree. I just don't expect it to happen. >=20 >=20 > I am not sure I agree. Are not a function sometimes marked as > obsolete because there is a new better version that works in more > cases? The old obsolete function may still work in many cases. >=20 > Maybe a more visible warning when obsolete things are found would be=20 > good? (Using for example lwarn.) A mention of a URL, or the information to fix it would be a help. This was a jewel for figuring out what old style back-quotes are. http://iep.water.ca.gov/d/bin/sbin/site/lib/xemacs-19.15/lisp/prim/backquot= e.el CA Department of Water Resources Interagency Ecological Program (I.E.P) was= not my first thought to find such a useful Emacs document. This file had a very good explanation. I know you can always google, but go= ogle is getting less useful it seems: to many hits on web-forums and portals. >=20 --Sig_/o/msHGwGREpRdJZITfLfHMm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH/rw7dfRchrkBInkRAsIZAJ9tEqj+G2/p4xxSqyMrySK5ZPpmwQCgm+0e 3DlwUfBRAjshmgztvSQr+w0= =P0Ya -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/o/msHGwGREpRdJZITfLfHMm--