From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Jones Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Soliciting Recommendations for a Mail Client Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:15:23 +0000 Message-ID: <20080408161523.GB27164@slim.pmade.com> References: <20080404021252.GB67048@slim.pmade.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207692937 2590 80.91.229.12 (8 Apr 2008 22:15:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 22:15:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 09 00:16:09 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JjM6o-0006wj-PX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:16:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjM6B-0000vS-Be for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:15:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjGTq-0000Fm-6W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:15:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjGTo-0000B9-HQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:15:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjGTo-0000Ar-5H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:15:28 -0400 Original-Received: from pmade.com ([64.92.223.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjGTn-0007jP-RY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:15:28 -0400 Original-Received: from pmade.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmade.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m38GFNGE029470 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:15:23 GMT (envelope-from mlists@pmade.com) Original-Received: (from pjones@localhost) by pmade.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m38GFNpv029469 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:15:23 GMT (envelope-from mlists@pmade.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pmade.com: pjones set sender to mlists@pmade.com using -f Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:27:09 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:53182 Archived-At: Dmitri Minaev wrote the following on Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 02:43:46PM +0500: > "If you are used to traditional mail readers, but have decided to > switch to reading mail with Gnus, you may find yourself experiencing > something of a culture shock," says the manual, and a shock it was. > "Gnus, by default, handles all its groups using the same approach. > This approach is very newsreaderly--you enter a group, see the > new/unread messages, and when you read the messages, they get marked > as read, and you don't see them any more." I know that if I forced > myself into using Gnus for a month or two, I would've got used to this > approach, but I found no real reasons to do so. I couldn't find the > mail I needed, then they suddenly sprang up, then my mailbox was full, > then I gave up. I use Gnus as a very good newsreader, the best I know, > but for mail I have tools that suit me better :) I only played with Gnus for about 30 minutes so far, but the message disappearance did have me a bit confused. I'd have to believe there is a configuration variable to turn this off. Anyone know what it is? -- Peter Jones http://pmade.com