From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Region Highlighting - an improvement over Transient Mark Mode. Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:04:55 +0000 Message-ID: <20080401190455.GB2260@muc.de> References: <20080401151931.GA6533@muc.de> <20080401174900.GA2260@muc.de> <200804011810.m31IAghI007964@jane.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207101370 16093 80.91.229.12 (2 Apr 2008 01:56:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 01:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Luc Teirlinck Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 02 03:56:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JgsDO-00087v-Ks for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:56:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JgsCm-0004BY-GY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:56:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JgsCh-0004A8-Fs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:55:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JgsCf-000486-S7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:55:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JgsCf-00047g-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:55:53 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1] helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JgsCf-0007Q0-1E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:55:53 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 18093 invoked by uid 3782); 1 Apr 2008 18:49:09 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p57AF4728.dip.t-dialin.net [87.175.71.40]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:49:07 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3779 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Apr 2008 19:04:55 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200804011810.m31IAghI007964@jane.dms.auburn.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94156 Archived-At: Hi, Luc! On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 01:10:42PM -0500, Luc Teirlinck wrote: > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > But I'm suggesting that the (eq mark-even-if-inactive nil) case be > removed, since it's not useful. > I have not followed this discussion, so I am not sure I understand the > above correctly. I hope that it does _not_ mean that you are > suggesting eliminating mark-even-if-inactive completely. That was indeed what I was suggesting. [ .... ] > I have used t-m-m ever since I used Emacs and if I use commands like > C-w and friends without having a region highlighted, so without being > able to verify what is going to be deleted, there is 100% certainty > that I typed C-w inadvertently, so the nice thing to do is to give me > an error message rather than to make me pay for my mistyping. > So it is bad enough that mark-even-if-inactive was made t by default > (a decision I am not going to fight, because I do not have the time > to enter in some endless discussion), it should _certainly_ not be > _eliminated_. OK, I withdraw the assertion that this option is useless and should be eliminated. I would, however, still suggest it be renamed to reflect the thinking in your second last paragraph above, and my opening post. How about `region-op-only-when-highlit' (with an alias for the old name, of course)? > Sincerely, > Luc. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).