From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike Mattie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Region Highlighting - an improvement over Transient Mark Mode. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94158 Archived-At: --Sig_/5aLK7Rublh0Y2dBB5osNA+F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:04:55 +0000 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Luc! >=20 > On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 01:10:42PM -0500, Luc Teirlinck wrote: > > Alan Mackenzie wrote: >=20 > > But I'm suggesting that the (eq mark-even-if-inactive nil) case > > be removed, since it's not useful. >=20 > > I have not followed this discussion, so I am not sure I understand > > the above correctly. I hope that it does _not_ mean that you are > > suggesting eliminating mark-even-if-inactive completely. >=20 > That was indeed what I was suggesting. >=20 > [ .... ] >=20 > > I have used t-m-m ever since I used Emacs and if I use commands like > > C-w and friends without having a region highlighted, so without > > being able to verify what is going to be deleted, there is 100% > > certainty that I typed C-w inadvertently, so the nice thing to do > > is to give me an error message rather than to make me pay for my > > mistyping. >=20 > > So it is bad enough that mark-even-if-inactive was made t by default > > (a decision I am not going to fight, because I do not have the time > > to enter in some endless discussion), it should _certainly_ not be > > _eliminated_. >=20 > OK, I withdraw the assertion that this option is useless and should be > eliminated. >=20 > I would, however, still suggest it be renamed to reflect the thinking > in your second last paragraph above, and my opening post. How about > `region-op-only-when-highlit' (with an alias for the old name, of > course)? the naming implies constraint, what benefit is an artificial limitation ? > > Sincerely, >=20 > > Luc. >=20 --Sig_/5aLK7Rublh0Y2dBB5osNA+F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH8ujsdfRchrkBInkRAjwQAKDYhxUnJ4m2nFwHrSZ/MLc8rDXp1QCffLPG h/e8H0WMBlc5/DrnIQKg1XA= =ietm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/5aLK7Rublh0Y2dBB5osNA+F--