From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general Subject: Re: Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:13:23 +0000 Message-ID: <20080329181323.GA21036@www.trapp.net> References: <200803290100.m2T10Mgm007655@localhost.localdomain> <85iqz5rgvw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <86y781wpdt.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <1w5tbi93.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206814605 28494 80.91.229.12 (29 Mar 2008 18:16:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bazaar@lists.canonical.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 29 19:17:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jffbw-0000fQ-Ba for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:17:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JffbK-0007sW-LV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:16:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JffaX-0007R0-Io for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:15:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JffaV-0007P2-QG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:15:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JffaV-0007Op-Cb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:15:31 -0400 Original-Received: from alextrapp1.equinoxe.de ([217.22.192.104] helo=www.elogos.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JffaV-00030c-24 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:15:31 -0400 Original-Received: by www.elogos.de (Postfix, from userid 4000) id 51E934B622; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1w5tbi93.fsf@telefonica.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93821 gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general:39529 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 05:35:36PM +0100, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: > merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: >=20 > > David> Uh, an arbitrary political decision wiping away all technical = arguments > > David> is what started free software in the first place. > > > > Only for the revisionists. Free software existed long before the GNU= Project. > > > > The GNU Project's contribution was a legally enforcable license to en= sure > > share-and-share-alike for authors who chose to use the legal system t= o enforce > > their politics. This was definitely an important contribution at the= time, > > but it wasn't the thing that "started free software". >=20 > Free Software, ("Free" in the GNU sense), is nothing without a legally > enforceable license that protects its freedom. Maybe you are talking > about what later was known as Open Source? (BSD license, etc). Oh, noes. You are confused. BSD *is* free by FSF standards[1]. Open Source is a term coined much later for those who want the advantages of free without the politics (or put in another terms: to avoid scaring the suits). Watch Theo de Raadts rants about _even GNU_ being not free enough to know what I mean :-) Open =3D=3D Free - ethics. Regards - -- tom=C3=A1s -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH7obDBcgs9XrR2kYRAvH5AJ9rrq3RqHQi0OaOr6T5v3QG5NdSYwCfcBCK EMV2f0HNAZIIVSMSjHNvU0Q=3D =3Dkk2O -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----