From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Bazaar repository Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:00:14 +0100 Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! Message-ID: <200803290100.m2T10DI3007640@localhost.localdomain> References: Reply-To: Xavier Maillard NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206754750 11323 80.91.229.12 (29 Mar 2008 01:39:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bazaar@lists.canonical.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: bazaar-bounces@lists.canonical.com Sat Mar 29 02:39:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvbg-bazaar-ng@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from chlorine.canonical.com ([91.189.94.204]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JfQ2m-00071m-Kn for gcvbg-bazaar-ng@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:39:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chlorine.canonical.com) by chlorine.canonical.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JfQ2B-0005F4-7l; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:39:03 +0000 Original-Received: from master.uucpssh.org ([193.218.105.66]) by chlorine.canonical.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JfQ1y-00057h-Dz for bazaar@lists.canonical.com; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:38:50 +0000 Original-Received: by master.uucpssh.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id EDBC0D7CB5; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:36:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2T10QnH007666; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:00:26 +0100 Original-Received: (from xma@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id m2T10DI3007640; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:00:14 +0100 In-reply-to: (message from Andreas Schwab on Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:43:42 +0100) User-Agent: Rmail in GNU Emacs 23.0.60.3 on GNU/Linux Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr X-uucpssh: Found to be clean X-uucpssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.296, required 4.6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.03, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_HELO_PASS -0.00, TW_BZ 0.08) X-uucpssh-From: xma@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bazaar@lists.canonical.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: bazaar discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bazaar-bounces@lists.canonical.com Errors-To: bazaar-bounces@lists.canonical.com Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general:39482 gmane.emacs.devel:93735 Archived-At: My first impression is that bzr is slow, so slow that it is completely unusable. How can it come that a simple bzr log takes more than a minute to even start? Even cvs log is instantaneous in comparison, although it has to request the log from the server. This slowness tenders to make any emacs oriented tool (vc-bzr, dvc, ...) almost useless and boring. There is something even worst: slowness makes is a major problem for the "commit often" slogan. Who want to spend/loose roughly 30s to even start to do anything ? I have switched a few projects a few days ago and the experiment is really painful and certainly not entertaining. I will persevere on using bzr but dunno how long :) Although the performances are quite bad, the ease of use of the whole project is interesting. Xavier