From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike Mattie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Honoring traditional defaults Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:00:35 -0700 Message-ID: <20080324200035.03bdda10@reforged> References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324115510.GA1563@muc.de> <874pavg45t.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <004d01c88e01$0f93b8f0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <87r6dzzhe0.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/zPE_mOHRD6CKKvXotg_CWQ."; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206414321 15686 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2008 03:05:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 04:05:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JdzTh-0007wX-Ut for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:05:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JdzT6-0004ut-Ud for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:04:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JdzT2-0004tq-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:04:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JdzSz-0004nr-6j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:04:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JdzSz-0004nk-3W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:04:49 -0400 Original-Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.225]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JdzSy-0001yD-K0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:04:48 -0400 Original-Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 57so2458726wri.12 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:04:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; bh=GPG/S1wznh2SGiDGy79o1vNaiddL1TRiwZEAjh5x+AE=; b=aJ/TY5ETwqaTdqsq4IFChXujWatMVk05T63mYFYxs5JPR0vQd2GHRYvlZMVFSjrCcoHLRPZR3gcSJ4c29znlixU9dq6Ol1Ig7dXPf9N0Bp52/USKsOzB1N1rXFuH7ysY66LAFFQnU/tLB/6GmbQnkW3eTwAZmdhttBH5DIZ9Raw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; b=EP17Ky8ztPnjasi0g3F1ckAOZeJxcABoxpQ3+T/o+Uc9Odw+F+MDj2aSNriUgTAFAD/wtjoq9syvmtX5H1zatxyrs7bOk7s7QNnCyA3haIdvVu1TTL/YRduMmbgKdXBClm+P4FW91lNSi4H9VqQaak9ycpzzXSvpllyajjm86EQ= Original-Received: by 10.114.153.18 with SMTP id a18mr13155860wae.127.1206414277919; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from reforged ( [71.217.206.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k23sm17498479waf.15.2008.03.24.20.04.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:04:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r6dzzhe0.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93384 Archived-At: --Sig_/zPE_mOHRD6CKKvXotg_CWQ. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:06:47 +0100 Bastien wrote: > "Drew Adams" writes: >=20 > > That is, provide one or more predefined sets of preference > > settings. Instead of the only customization possibility being to > > dive into the tangled swamp of Emacs's myriad options, users could > > choose a suitable macro-level option: a set of option settings. >=20 > I think this would be useful. =20 >=20 > Especially because it would force us in terms of consistent sets of > options, rather than "defaults for n00bs" vs "defaults for gurus." >=20 > If you have a "skin" or a set of options called "RMS-Emacs" I guess=20 > many newbies will first try this one. =20 >=20 > PS: As for myself, I woud try Alan-Emacs :) >=20 I hacked away on something like this. There is a huge problem with how much stuff is outside of the Emacs mainline (CEDET), and installation difficulty. Not everything belongs in Emacs Core, we really need something like CPAN with how much essential functionality is floating around without deployment cohesion. It would also be a good ground for experiments to be verified before moving to mainline. 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