From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general Subject: Re: Emacs Bazaar repository Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:04:47 -0700 Message-ID: <200803141804.m2EI4mLm010310@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <87skyvse7k.fsf@xmission.com> <86ejae96t4.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205518018 3060 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2008 18:06:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@suse.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Matthieu Moy , bazaar@lists.canonical.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 14 19:07:26 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JaEIZ-0001WM-P6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:06:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JaEI0-00006q-JK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:05:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JaEHv-0008W8-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:05:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JaEHu-0008UG-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:05:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JaEHu-0008UA-3Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:05:50 -0400 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JaEHq-0001YQ-0O; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:05:46 -0400 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1206122689.97834@lYqkfWaqlXbbVGRYuw8c6w Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2EI4mLm010310; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:04:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:40:24 +0200") Original-Lines: 35 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.363, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44, TW_BZ 0.08) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92593 gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general:38598 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > From: Matthieu Moy > > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:58:13 +0100 > > Cc: Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org, > > bazaar@lists.canonical.com > > > > > Andreas Schwab writes: > > > > > >> My first impression is that bzr is slow, so slow that it is completely > > >> unusable. How can it come that a simple bzr log takes more than a > > >> minute to even start? Even cvs log is instantaneous in comparison, > > >> although it has to request the log from the server. > > [...] > > As opposed to that, bzr has to get a global view of history at least > > to get the revision numbers (there was some plans caching this > > information, I don't know what's the status). > > > > That said, the time for bzr log to start should clearly not be _that_ > > long. > > Incidentally, why are we concentrating on "bzr log"? is that a > frequent operation? For me it is. Every time I change some code that I am not 100% sure I know, I do a vc-annotate and then from the *vc-annotate* buffer vc-log and vc-diff on the "interesting" lines. > Aren't "push" and "pull" much more important, as far as speed is > concerned, for everyday work? Also the equivalent of "cvs diff", I > think. Those are the ops I use much more frequently than "log" and > "annotate". diff is surely much more frequent than "log" and "annotate", but it also takes more than a minute with bzr (much slower than CVS).