From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: incomplete comment colorization in terminals Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:34:31 -0700 Message-ID: <200803140034.m2E0YVPa020528@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <20080311231514.B718249C0BB@daedalus.stanford.edu> <200803120644.m2C6i8fa000584@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <18391.37244.140676.65895@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200803130638.m2D6cILZ010032@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803132244.m2DMioqZ025396@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <18393.50421.367537.81004@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205454970 6624 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2008 00:36:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:36:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: riepel@networking.stanford.edu, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Nick Roberts Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 14 01:36:37 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZxuW-0003Cf-Kd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:36:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZxtx-0003DS-Hx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:36:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZxtt-0003Bh-JH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZxts-0003A0-Cw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZxts-00039m-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZxts-0000bW-2e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JZxtr-0006A1-MW for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZxto-0000b6-QY for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:55 -0400 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZxtk-0000aD-Q1; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:49 -0400 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1206059671.97287@ftcKyilHLUd5eKfu1zm3aA Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m2E0YVPa020528; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:34:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <18393.50421.367537.81004@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:21:09 +1300") Original-Lines: 30 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92457 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21563 Archived-At: Nick Roberts writes: > Dan Nicolaescu writes: > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > > > We can actually completely get rid of `font-lock-comment-delimiter-face' > > > if the color for the dark background, 8 colors is changed to "yellow". > > > "yellow" is very readable on a black background. It will appear as > > > orange on the Linux console, which is also very readable. > > > > > > I tried that in `font-lock-comment-face', and it is ok, > > > > In that case, please let's go with that solution, it is the lower > > complexity solution, and less surprising for the user. We have gotten a > > few bug reports from users that were confused by this (it is not > > immediately intuitive). > > I feel that you're using journalistic techniques to steam roller through your > wishes. Let's look at the full quote: > > I tried that in `font-lock-comment-face', and it is ok, but having the > text in white is clearer and easier to read. > > I think it conveys quite a different impression. > > All these stylistic changes that you are making are probably not worth arguing > about but I think you should look for some real agreement that they are an > improvement before making them. Do you have a point here? It's unclear what you are trying to say.