From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Mode line changes
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:44:35 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200803052344.m25NiZBu005661@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18383.10929.552453.7400@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:20:17 +1300")
Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz> writes:
> > > 1) Toggling line and column display should move to mouse-3 as it's a
> > > convention the this button is used for pull down menus where possible.
> >
> > mouse-1 on the mode-line pops both the major-mode and minor-mode menus.
>
> That's why I said "where possible". Mouse-3 is tied up with other menus on the
> major and minor modes. Whereas mouse-3 currently on the line number mode does
> nothing so I don't see the point in breaking the convention when there is no
> need.
So you are arguing that for popping a menu one would have to use mouse-1
for the major-mode, vc-mode, and minor-modes and then when moving one
entry to the left use mouse-3 for the line-number/column-number menu ?
That's completely inconsistent. Adding a binding to mouse-3 would make
more sense if that's considered necessary.
> > > 2) The size indication lighter shouldn't toggle line and column display
> > > because it has a different purpose.
> >
> > Why not?
>
> Because it's not intuitive and I guess it's bad UI design to have two buttons
> next to each other that do the same thing.
Don't see why. Better do something useful than nothing. And it helps if
you manage to turn off both column-number-mode and line-number-mode,
it won't be easy to turn them back on.
> >
> > > 3) The mode-line-highlight should not be applied to mode-line-remote because
> > > this face is used for `buttons' and no local-map (binding) has been added
> > > here.
> >
> > Yep, but if there's no highlighting you'd never know there's anything
> > special about that place on the mode-line if you don't keep the mouse
> > long enough for the tooltip to appear.
>
> You have a point but you might just ask yourself why the symbol was there, in
> the first place and then you would have to move the mouse over it to realise it
> has mode-line-highlight anyway. In any case, the hand icon appears where there
> is mode-line-highlight,
Well, I added that because I never noticed the tooltip until I saw the
corresponding code in bindings.el, and I did spend time looking at the
mode-line tooltips when I rewrote the text. I don't really care that
much about this issue, so if you really don't like it, go ahead in
remove it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-05 23:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-05 20:46 Mode line changes Nick Roberts
2008-03-05 21:40 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-05 23:20 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-05 23:44 ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2008-03-06 0:07 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-06 0:27 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-06 0:20 ` Miles Bader
2008-03-07 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-05 22:04 ` Stefan Monnier
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