From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike Mattie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:31:21 -0800 Message-ID: <20080222163121.0b2b8341@reforged> References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85ablvftqe.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <8e24944a0802201130y1601cd6dvf22a8089e2de97f7@mail.gmail.com> <858x1fe6fc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <8e24944a0802201241o4a2a70d0xb823b3fa27692bfd@mail.gmail.com> <87zltujk8n.fsf@jurta.org> <874pc0leip.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/N6kejrgvfvshaOpDJ_LJ4sH"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203726888 32051 80.91.229.12 (23 Feb 2008 00:34:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 23 01:35:12 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSiM8-0000TR-00 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:35:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSiLc-0004sQ-Hb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:34:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSiLZ-0004sL-3l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:34:33 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSiLW-0004s9-Jr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:34:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSiLW-0004s6-FO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:34:30 -0500 Original-Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.183]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JSiLW-00031u-5k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:34:30 -0500 Original-Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so596299ele.10 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:34:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; bh=QPCvSfRyR2wzJ0aO6HkkMZ1KANtj3GCPN8OsQNuWNxA=; b=G7NP+KJQYYVcnQLruC57Z0/Ma1gJuFHqJIDJcepUN+FFVVt1b+pljlOOdNkQn9NTw2DF9kmo8Pc4B9rwY7IgXAxP2hOdQ79Mj7S+PuwzzWSoxGR4RkPTK4f+Hvz1fo2holOERpldA31rj8jVWiH7l1PfNgEoE5fhzyolae5Eif4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; b=XYJ6NF02wAkcmDdjoSLQog7vqVfVho8jIzGL8OpXLCxfp02BxEatixFJ2z4X9pZ38mG9DyCZ3XvPCGA+lp9oGiojd5gVTAYvE1lsP04+KIFsOGaijwtegXfoG53RDNQRGqwW8IV7JnUiQllA8Np8u1Va7C32jIPi9xL2Z3Qlnac= Original-Received: by 10.114.195.19 with SMTP id s19mr788545waf.58.1203726868295; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:34:28 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from reforged ( [71.217.206.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n22sm3288888pof.1.2008.02.22.16.34.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:34:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <874pc0leip.fsf@catnip.gol.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90074 Archived-At: --Sig_/N6kejrgvfvshaOpDJ_LJ4sH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:09:34 +0900 Miles Bader wrote: > Richard Stallman writes: > > No it's not. If that feature is desired (seems ok to me), it > > should just be added to normal t-m-m. > > > > That makes sense to me. Just as C-SPC C-SPC enables a temporarily > > specially active region when that's not the default (Transient Mark > > mode disabled), it could set the mark and not activate in the mode > > where activating is the default (Transient Mark mode enabled). > > > > I am not sure whether it is useful, but there is no reason to reject > > it if it is useful. >=20 > Now that I think about it, I really like this idea: it's very easy to > understand that C-SPC C-SPC and C-SPC are "active and non-active" > mark-setting commands, and simply swap roles depending on whether > full-t-m-mode is enabled, and obviously C-SPC C-SPC is very convenient > to type. >=20 > I've never really used the "push a mark" command much, as I use > t-m-mode, but I think if C-SPC C-SPC pushed a non-active mark, I would > use it more often. It will rock your world :) especially when you consider that the mark-ring = is a list. I am going to cook up a function that assumes the marks of the ring are inside defuns. That way I can quickly extract several functions by dropping a mark on each one as I scan through the buffer, and then collect them off the mark ring. Just one idea, but it's food for thought. It's great to be able to leave a trail. or apply commands beyond a linear region. A mark is insanely great when it is just a mark. =20 > -Miles >=20 --Sig_/N6kejrgvfvshaOpDJ_LJ4sH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHv2lZdfRchrkBInkRAhEUAJ9keDIpQoMYSQzLacYeP1DX+S8nAwCgqUoM MqjS9RTrhnAKV51H7Vjaxd0= =2srk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/N6kejrgvfvshaOpDJ_LJ4sH--