From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: records-mode ? Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:00:25 +0100 Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! Message-ID: <200802210200.m1L20Pc6004774@localhost.localdomain> References: <200802190200.m1J202tc009788@localhost.localdomain> <8763wkoz7e.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> Reply-To: Xavier Maillard NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203557791 5856 80.91.229.12 (21 Feb 2008 01:36:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Tim X Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 21 02:36:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JS0Mo-0008Lc-JQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:36:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JS0MJ-00065r-KC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:36:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JS0LD-000570-P1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:35:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JS0LB-00054R-Vd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:35:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JS0LB-00053r-GJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: from master.uucpssh.org ([193.218.105.66]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JS0LA-0008KR-IN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:35:12 -0500 Original-Received: by master.uucpssh.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 6B881C607A; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:32:10 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1L20X9Q004800; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:00:34 +0100 Original-Received: (from xma@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id m1L20Pc6004774; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:00:25 +0100 In-reply-to: <8763wkoz7e.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> (message from Tim X on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:37:41 +1100) User-Agent: Rmail in GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2 on GNU/Linux Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr X-uucpssh: Found to be clean X-uucpssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.348, required 4.6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.05, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_HELO_PASS -0.00) X-uucpssh-From: xma@gnu.org X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:51719 Archived-At: Sounds to me like you could get very close to what you want by using org modes tags facility. It has fairly sophisticated tag based searching and displaying etc. As said earlier, I find Org and planner fantastic, really. The main problem with them, _for me_, is that they just do way too much. I always feel dumb and lost when trying to do simple things. For example, searching in Org makes me sick. The other problem with these tools, more for Org than planner, is that I take way too much time to "organize" my data; I am always changing how I do things, how I classify/tag them, and I am always playing with latest package features. At least, with something more basic, I am not tempted to "play" but just to do and that's the most important thing in fact. It sounds to me like planner mode would be close to what you want. What you outline is very close to how I work with planner mode. I have the planner day pages and it has support for moving around - previous day, next day etc. I have various project pages with notes and tasks for each project. When I schedule a task, it appears in the day page once the date it has been scheduled for comes around. this gives me the best of both worlds. I have day pages that I can use to check what I did or will have to do on a specific day, but I also have project pages that I can check to get an overview of the tasks and notes relating to a specific project. I also use the time clocking facilities so that in my day pages, I get an overview of where I spent time for that day and in the project pages, I get an overview of how I've spent time on that project. Since I can't follow a discipline, I am no longer planning anything. At my job position, tasks are coming all day long, project is managed by project manager and it's their job to verify I can work on a project and to plan any task needed. I am only concentrating on doing the job. I am like a FIFO: First crying, First served :) When a task hits me, it is always urgent and of higher priority than anything I was working on before (dixit my boss) thus the needless of any organisational tool for me ;) Otherwise, I would have had probably stuck with Org and friends. I use remember to make notes. A copy of the note is put on the day page and one in the project page for the project I specify Remember will probably stay here too as an helper in taking (really quick) notes. I can't live without remember, this is probably one of the most important package for me. I just need to figure out how I can make it cooperate with either records or notes-mode. Anyway, thank you very much for all your answers. Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org