From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: remapping keys Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:01:14 +0100 Message-ID: <200802190301.14347.juanma_bellon@yahoo.es> References: <47b96d58$0$10623$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <47b9b97c$0$37201$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203401016 26963 80.91.229.12 (19 Feb 2008 06:03:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:03:36 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 19 07:03:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRLa9-0002mU-PG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:03:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRLZf-00055R-6h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:03:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRHqs-0006dG-Nc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:04:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRHqo-0006aG-Re for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:04:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRHqo-0006a2-Mq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:04:54 -0500 Original-Received: from n19.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.46]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRHqo-0000lG-6F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:04:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [68.142.194.244] by n19.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 02:04:35 -0000 Original-Received: from [68.142.201.68] by t2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 02:04:35 -0000 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp420.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 02:04:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 46042.51919.bm@omp420.mail.mud.yahoo.com Original-Received: (qmail 54843 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 02:04:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=tnnfDV/TcYfbjGzi2/ERVFq17l8naPwWQP4eDB7mCssSW+KtKZp3wQXszjeoeuSJCTdwTsw09THre4InTHJOtbujK8ATVP+OdZ5R+/FmvFJMT5Bjy0+T/21XLIMSPoT0gDTWHI2Y5m5iuAhBKbs/c6anz8H0uo6Wi0VxGW1XqX8= ; Original-Received: from unknown (HELO unknown-00-1a-4b-5b-1d-b3.lan) (devil_juanek@80.203.44.182 with plain) by smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 02:04:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: f6CwDJoVM1nw7t9gGi_SunXMRkJIp2jdjj4o79fFU0Rw3YSznDeNKzGNO3PTreM99NQhDsXYLg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 In-Reply-To: <47b9b97c$0$37201$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:01:22 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:51672 Archived-At: On Monday 18 February 2008 18:00, Seldon wrote: > [...] > > I personally prefer to do those kinds of "inconvenient keyboard" things > > globally by choosing another keyboard layout (e.g. with > > gnome-keyboard-properties). > > I would prefer a more selective approach, remapping only the keys I need. Try with function keyboard-translate. You say you are newbie with Emacs. You might discover you need to change to= o=20 many things. Just a couple of examples: * dabbrev-expand (M-/) * undo vs. negative-argument (C-_ vs. C--). Actually, undo is best located= in=20 C-/, but not in your layout. I moved from the Spanish layout (similar to Italian) to a dual (switching)= =20 layout: US std. / US intl. w/ deadkeys (gives you all latin-1 characters).= =20 Now the slash is one easy hit away and so is the single quote mark. I'm not= =20 going back to Spanish layout even if I have to use a Spanish keyboard. Juanma =2D----------------------------- "No pleasure, no rapture, no exquisite sin greater than central air." =A0 =A0 -- Azrael, in film "Dogma" (Kevin Smith, 1999)