From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Using several frames on TTYs, switching them, terminology: [Is also: Tabbed buffers] Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:50:19 +0000 Message-ID: <20080127215019.GC5014@muc.de> References: <18330.23354.579245.68671@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87ejc5sf4l.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <18330.29609.396872.678539@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87wspxqwjv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20080127195538.GA5014@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201469986 8767 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2008 21:39:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, miles@gnu.org, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 27 22:40:06 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JJFET-0005DZ-KE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:40:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJFE2-0001Ok-VN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:39:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJFDy-0001Of-Tg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:39:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJFDx-0001OT-B5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:39:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJFDx-0001OQ-6a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:39:33 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1] helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJFDw-0000q6-KW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:39:32 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 50804 invoked by uid 3782); 27 Jan 2008 21:39:30 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p57AF6130.dip.t-dialin.net [87.175.97.48]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:39:29 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 8762 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Jan 2008 21:50:19 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87662 Archived-At: 'Evening, Stefan! On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 04:13:29PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> and that is ok, people can continue not to use them. But getting rid > >> of them would just mean trouble. > > Too damn right it would! I'd start screaming! > Hello? It's me! > Do you really think I'd suggest to plainly throw away tty frames? > Seriously? No, of course not, not you! It was actually Richard who brought the issue up, but he wouldn't get rid of them either. People sometimes express the opinion that TTYs have been superseded by GUIs, sometimes they express it forcefully, and sometimes offensively (though this hasn't happened on this thread). It doesn't hurt, sometimes, to remind people that this is not the case. > Stefan -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremnberg, Germany).