From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:33:17 -0800 Message-ID: <200801220033.m0M0XRIq020863@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <20071230122217.3CA84830B9A@snark.thyrsus.com> <4pd9g15e.fsf@blue.sea.net> <200801211552.m0LFq2Wm012283@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87tzl75bcy.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200962200 11015 80.91.229.12 (22 Jan 2008 00:36:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jaalto@cante.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Jari Aalto To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 22 01:36:58 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JH78L-0003NV-Hq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:36:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JH77v-00029C-Pz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:36:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JH77r-00028x-Kt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:36:27 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JH77q-00028k-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:36:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JH77q-00028h-E4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:36:26 -0500 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JH77j-0002iD-0M; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:36:19 -0500 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1201566808.00305@PfjTRMQ6Zt06d5TkxmmmDw Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m0M0XRIq020863; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:33:27 -0800 (PST) Original-Lines: 33 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.363, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44, TW_BZ 0.08) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87268 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Dan Nicolaescu writes: > > It partially does, there are (BIG) missing pieces in the vc-git > > implementation: vc-update and branching are not implemented. > > > > For vc-update: none of vc-git, vc-bzr and vc-hg implement it. vc-update > > needs work in order to support these systems properly, they want to > > merge on a whole project basis instead of file basis as vc-update > > currently does. > > Of course part of the problem is that vc-update seems like a hopelessly > antiquated interface That was my point. This has been discussed a few times on the list, and I recently added it to the TODO list in vc.el. If anyone wants to volunteer and sit down and do it, it would be great. > > And the UI for those 2 things is not good at all in Git. > > (The underlying functionality works very well, but it is quite hard to > > use if you don't have a thorough understanding on how Git works > > inside...) > > What do you mean? [There are confusing things in git, but that hardly > seems one of them...] checkout vs checkout --track pull, fetch and the 50 options that each has. But I doubt that this is the right place to discuss these things. BTW, if anyone wants to see the difference in UI between git and Mercurial/Bzr, just look at the commands that are run to implement the VC interface in vc-{git,hg,bzr}.el.