From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [svenjoac@gmx.de: Adding --lzma option to make-dist] Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:20:48 -0600 Message-ID: <200801150020.m0F0Km612554@f7.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200356459 23411 80.91.229.12 (15 Jan 2008 00:20:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:20:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 15 01:21:21 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JEZYO-0007xE-IS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:21:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JEZY0-0002D7-4m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:20:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JEZXv-0002Ck-8X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:20:51 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JEZXt-0002CM-Pe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:20:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JEZXt-0002CJ-K1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:20:49 -0500 Original-Received: from server1.f7.net ([64.34.169.74] helo=f7.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEZXt-0004QV-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:20:50 -0500 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org X-Envelope-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by f7.net (8.11.7-20030920/8.11.7) id m0F0Km612554; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:20:48 -0600 In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86923 Archived-At: rms forwarded me Sven's message about lzma. With apologies for repeating things people may already know: It seems that the lzma format would be a very good candidate for distribution tarballs, Yes indeed. In fact, Jim Meyering has already made patches to automake to support it; he plans to distribute the next coreutils as .gz and .lzma. tar will support it at some point, too. If GNU packages start using it, I'm sure it will become rather widespread rather quickly :). if only it were more widespread; information and downloads are available at http://www.7-zip.org/sdk.html. That is indeed the original web site, but the software distributed there (and in the p7zip project, which is the 7-zip.org code ported to POSIX) contains nonfree code related to the rar format (nothing about lzma itself). The authors were not interested in removing the rar code. Fortunately, another hacker has put together a 100% free distribution, with the standard autotools && make infrastructure, and a cmdline interface similar to gzip and bzip2: http://tukaani.org/lzma/ The only caveat is that the file format will change once more; however, newer versions will be able to read older lzma archives, so as long as we stick to the 4.32.x series for now, it should be fine to use. Karl