From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 09:57:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080105145743.GH30869@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080105111720.GA3014@muc.de>
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>:
> > There's emacs-bug to be hacked. And one of our listmembers has
> > already noted that the Debian tracker can be driven by email.
>
> What is "emacs-bug"? I think I'm missing some context somewhere.
Perhaps I have the name wrong, but I believe there is an Emacs mode
specifically for generating bug reports to be mailed in. I think
I used it once.
> The best (proprietary) bug tracker I ever used had fields only for things
> like person creating the entry, status (open/fixed/rejected), customer,
> severity, urgency. Then it had free text areas for describing the bug.
That's about where the Wesnoth and Ubuntu trackers are. The Wesnoth one
does have a "platform" field for specifying your OS, but that's
reasonable given that we do both Mac and Windows ports.
> Fair response. ;-) But the base system has to be one that allows
> appropriate access.
This is *not difficult*. There's not even any need to postulate other than
HTTP access to do it, because we have w3m.
If all else fails, we write a mode that uses w3m to presents a bug-entry or
query form and then does a transaction with the bug-tracker CGI. I'll
bet either you or I could throw that together in a few hours' work.
> I wasn't very clear, there. Of course users need web forms, and they
> will manipulate the database directly. But why can't we have VCS
> updating, too? This will allow RMS and others to work offline, a very
> desirable thing.
A VCS-based solution would be more complicated than necessary. Easier
just to write a w3m-based client that pulls a copy of the entire bug
database out of the tracker.
--
<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-04 16:44 Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-04 17:33 ` Andreas Röhler
2008-01-04 18:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-04 18:38 ` Gianluca Della Vedova
2008-01-05 14:31 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 18:50 ` Gianluca Della Vedova
2008-01-05 19:51 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-05 19:58 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 20:13 ` Sven Joachim
2008-01-05 20:28 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-06 10:47 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 22:39 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-06 18:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 19:57 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-06 22:29 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-07 11:31 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-04 19:20 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-04 19:40 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-04 23:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-05 0:44 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 1:23 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-05 2:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 16:33 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-05 19:05 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 19:12 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-05 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 20:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 21:55 ` Reiner Steib
2008-01-05 22:05 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-05 22:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 23:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 22:00 ` Bastien
2008-01-05 22:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 23:32 ` Bastien
2008-01-06 0:52 ` Bastien
2008-01-07 17:15 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-08 1:06 ` Bastien
2008-01-06 10:46 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-08 23:49 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-09 1:13 ` Leo
2008-01-09 1:48 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-09 1:28 ` Andrea Russo
2008-01-09 1:49 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-05 12:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-05 17:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-01-06 1:10 ` Mike Mattie
2008-01-06 18:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 18:18 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-06 21:27 ` Jan Djärv
2008-01-06 21:35 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-07 6:56 ` Jan Djärv
2008-01-07 8:23 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-07 14:28 ` Bill Wohler
2008-01-10 4:11 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-05 22:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-01-05 22:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-01-05 23:05 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 23:20 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-06 17:13 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-06 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-06 20:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-06 22:17 ` Bastien
2008-01-05 5:20 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 11:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-05 14:57 ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2008-01-05 15:51 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-05 16:07 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 19:58 ` Chris Ball
2008-01-05 20:50 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-05 21:26 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 23:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-06 16:38 ` email-based development (was:: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker) John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-01-05 8:51 ` Let a QA department into the works Andreas Röhler
2008-01-05 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-06 8:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 11:15 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-06 19:52 ` Andreas Röhler
2008-01-05 21:39 ` Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Bastien
2008-01-05 14:30 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 15:25 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-06 10:47 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 18:24 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 20:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 21:48 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 23:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 23:39 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-06 1:03 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-06 2:08 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-06 4:08 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-06 10:26 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-06 11:22 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-06 13:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-06 11:13 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-06 15:59 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-07 11:30 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-07 13:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-08 19:06 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-09 15:35 ` Bill Wohler
2008-01-06 4:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-06 5:30 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-07 14:40 ` Yavor Doganov
2008-01-10 4:23 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-10 6:46 ` Mark Linimon
2008-01-11 7:00 ` Bill Wohler
2008-01-11 15:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-11 20:42 ` Ralf Angeli
2008-01-11 21:25 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-11 22:41 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-11 23:14 ` Evans Winner
2008-01-13 8:35 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 18:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 20:02 ` Martin Geisler
2008-01-07 11:31 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-06 21:08 ` Eric S. Raymond
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