From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Introducing 'unrecognized and 'ignored Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 09:34:15 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20080105143415.GG30869@thyrsus.com> References: <17EA38DF-BCC1-4565-8510-5DD10DD667E3@mac.com> <20071229114551.GD9794@thyrsus.com> <20080102021907.GA15494@thyrsus.com> <200801020445.m024jWU2008538@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200801031805.m03I5SBf022748@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200801050901.m0591mQj011970@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199543875 29561 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2008 14:37:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@snark.thyrsus.com, harsanyi@mac.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 05 15:38:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBAA6-0004Ih-Rw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:38:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBA9k-0001zh-9g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:37:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBA69-0007ny-QV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:34:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBA68-0007ly-2b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:34:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBA67-0007ll-R6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:34:03 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5] helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBA64-00068o-0Y; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:34:00 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 23) id 685D041C316; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 09:34:15 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200801050901.m0591mQj011970@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86166 Archived-At: Dan Nicolaescu : > > Are custom displays needed? What would you want to use them for? > > I believe so. One use for displaying no-file related information: > repository name, branch name, the command that is being executed (all > done by PCL-CVS). > > In the future we might want to add some widgets to select the branch to > display. Or to the repository to connect to. Maybe display a short > version of the logs for the last commits in the repository for the files > that need merging. Dan, there are parts of the VC design about which I feel some territoriality, but this is absolutely not one of them. The performance of the VC-Dired code is not where I want it to be, your arguments seem sound, and you seem well motivated to do a good job. If you think you can rip VC-Dired out and replace it with a better and faster ewoc-based display layer, you may do so with my blessing and support. I say this partly because the code structure should make this experiment easy to back out if it fails. But I'm not expecting it to. -- Eric S. Raymond