From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Introducing 'unrecognized and 'ignored Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:41:58 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20080103174158.GA23630@thyrsus.com> References: <20071229114551.GD9794@thyrsus.com> <20080102021907.GA15494@thyrsus.com> <20080102114614.GA17588@thyrsus.com> <20080102221130.GA3400@thyrsus.com> <20080102232915.GB4431@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199382135 965 80.91.229.12 (3 Jan 2008 17:42:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Alexandru Harsanyi To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 03 18:42:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JAU5O-0003JS-CO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:42:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JAU52-00054O-6f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:42:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JAU4t-00051u-Am for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:41:59 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JAU4p-00050X-S5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:41:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JAU4p-00050Q-Ja for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:41:55 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5] helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JAU4p-0007ks-Da for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:41:55 -0500 Original-Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 23) id 13732830697; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:41:59 -0500 (EST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86001 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier : > VC doesn't really need the info. It only uses it because of its > original mistake to use dired (and hence `ls'). Once this mistake is > corrected it won't need it any more. > > Where else, then? In simple.el or subr.el or some other global file. > Then VC backends can add to that variable and so can any other > elisp package. This way speedbar doesn't need to refer to any of > those packages. I'm not opposed to this, but it's conditional on changing VC so it doesn't use Dired any more. RMS is opposed to that; I'd like to know why before I make a decision. -- Eric S. Raymond