From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Introducing 'unrecognized and 'ignored Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:13:46 -0800 Message-ID: <200801022313.m02NDkTc017210@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> References: <20071228174512.66834830BC9@snark.thyrsus.com> <17EA38DF-BCC1-4565-8510-5DD10DD667E3@mac.com> <20071229114551.GD9794@thyrsus.com> <20080102021907.GA15494@thyrsus.com> <20080102114614.GA17588@thyrsus.com> <20080102221130.GA3400@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199315772 9214 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2008 23:16:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 23:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" , Alexandru Harsanyi , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 03 00:16:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JACp1-0007tH-FY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:16:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JACof-0002sC-8O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:16:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JACob-0002rw-E1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:16:01 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JACoZ-0002rF-Po for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:16:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JACoZ-0002r9-MF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:15:59 -0500 Original-Received: from oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JACoZ-0004Eb-9V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:15:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m02NDkTc017210; Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:13:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20080102221130.GA3400@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:11:30 -0500") Original-Lines: 24 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-0.84, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44, J_CHICKENPOX_82 0.60) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85948 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > Stefan Monnier : > > vc-directory calls dired-internal-noselect which does the directory > > listing (typically using `ls'). > > Oh, so we can only get rid of that by no longer using dired at all. > Right. That may be a way to go in the future. Dan's idea of using > ewoc may work well, I'm going to make time to look into it. > > > >> That would also allow us to get rid of vc-directory-exclusion-list. > > > > > Not unless we want to wire an equivalent back into speedbar.el. > > > > That's a good idea in any case: speedbar shouldn't need to rely on VC > > for that. > > But the alternative is for speedbar and all other modes that have to > be VCS-aware to have their own separate lists of special > version-control directories. This seems wrong to me, violating what > database people call the SPOT (Single Point Of Truth) rule. Unfortunately we have another violation of that: grep-find-ignored-directories :-(