From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:41:11 +0000 Message-ID: <20080102084111.GA19608@www.trapp.net> References: <20071230122217.3CA84830B9A@snark.thyrsus.com> <20071231130712.GB8641@thyrsus.com> <87y7b96az8.fsf@member.fsf.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199263639 26911 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2008 08:47:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tassilo Horn , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 02 09:47:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J9zGE-0000NC-Bu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:47:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9zFs-0005qc-3N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:47:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9zFi-0005kR-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:47:06 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9zFe-0005gX-O7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:47:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9zFd-0005g1-S0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from alextrapp1.equinoxe.de ([217.22.192.104] helo=www.elogos.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J9zFa-0007Vu-0G; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:46:58 -0500 Original-Received: from www.elogos.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.elogos.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF9B47983; Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by www.elogos.de (Postfix, from userid 4000) id 9AB5C4793C; Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85866 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 10:36:30PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Tassilo Horn [...] > > IMO this would change with a VCS like git, too. On problem with the > > current situation is that possible contributors might fear that their > > changes break something or won't be liked by the core devs. So they > > don't even try it at all. >=20 > I don't see why. Someone who wants just to try things can do that in > their sandbox; no one will ever know they did it unless they tell or > post the patches. How is this different from using git? To paraphrase what Tassilo has written elsewhere in this thread: the potential contributor will be able to survive the time in which his potential patches aren't integrated yet -- even pulling in changes made to the main line. With CVS this is @#&%^H^H^H^Hdaunting. Two recent examples: multy-tty and unicode. And even there, we are benefitting from a distributed version control system, Arch, with a friendly user interface put on top (named Miles :-) Regards - -- tom=C3=A1s -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHe04nBcgs9XrR2kYRAijpAJ9FcCi2pUF7LT4q2PCrrprawIDQlACcDaNX oJAv/TTBq/vMkJv0Kv4wTts=3D =3DWJ5S -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----