From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:27:42 +0000 Message-ID: <20080101182742.GE3830@muc.de> References: <20071231130712.GB8641@thyrsus.com> <20080101171120.GC3830@muc.de> <20080101.190535.32709273.wl@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199211542 10838 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2008 18:19:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, esr@snark.thyrsus.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Werner LEMBERG Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 01 19:19:21 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J9lhw-0001Xi-PZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:19:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9lha-0006Ci-GF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:18:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9lhW-00069z-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:18:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9lhU-00066n-UI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:18:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9lhU-00066a-Iw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:18:52 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1] helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J9lhU-0001FL-0Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:18:52 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 65409 invoked by uid 3782); 1 Jan 2008 18:18:49 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p57AF58EF.dip.t-dialin.net [87.175.88.239]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:18:47 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 7844 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Jan 2008 18:27:42 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080101.190535.32709273.wl@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85812 Archived-At: Glückwünsch zum Neuen, Werner! On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 07:05:35PM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > [...] I suggest the following two constraints for the new tools, > > which might not apply to Battle for Wesnoth: > > o - They must support "batch mode" working, for RMS and others who > > concentrate fiercely on a single activity at a time. > git has such a batch mode, while CVS has none. So for Richard, git > would be a much better choice than CVS since he could commit very > small units while being off-line. I don't understand what you mean, here, probably because I don't know git. cvs can work on arbitrary sets of files, e.g. with "cvs update". What do you mean? I was thinking more about the IIRC thingies: If RMS were to take part in online chats, he'd be slowed down to the speed of ordinary hackers, a disastrous loss of productivity for him. (I, of course, would be barely able to keep up. ;-) So, whatever way of discussion we settle on, it must allow people to participate in "batch mode", at their own speed. > Werner -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).