From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Selection-set editing without VC-dired Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:36:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20071230143606.CE55DCF80BA@golux.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199025394 1798 80.91.229.12 (30 Dec 2007 14:36:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:36:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 30 15:36:48 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J8zHU-0004jF-2z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:36:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J8zH8-0001L5-KI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:36:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J8zH5-0001Jl-1J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:36:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J8zGz-0001D3-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:36:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J8zGz-0001Cy-Ap for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:36:17 -0500 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5] helo=golux.thyrsus.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J8zGz-0005Y4-Ar for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:36:17 -0500 Original-Received: by golux.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 23) id CE55DCF80BA; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:36:06 -0500 (EST) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85683 Archived-At: (Apologies if this appears as a resend. I'm having hardware and Postfix-configuration troubles this morning and I think my first attempt bounced.) The selection-set editing commands I proposed in a reply to David Kastrup would be easy to implement. However, on reflection, I am not at all sure doing so would be wise design. In general, I think it is better to have one UI method that works well than lots of semi-gratuitous knobs and switches. And I might want to use C-x v + and C-x v - for something else someday. So, I'm not outright rejecting the idea of a non-VC-Dired UI for specifying selection sets. But I think it would be better for now if I continued to focus on making VC-Dired so fast that you won't really want or need an alternate set-editing method. I expect to capture another substantial speed gain in the next rewrite. I'd have done this already, but I've been a bit distracted by the holiday social round. -- >>esr>>