From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scroll-conservatively default Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:32:52 -0800 Message-ID: <200712050432.lB54Wqqn014103@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> References: <200712020048.lB20mS9R002812@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200712032120.lB3LKwJ1003309@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200712040725.lB47P150025265@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196829244 1938 80.91.229.12 (5 Dec 2007 04:34:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 04:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 05 05:34:12 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Izlxb-0002ld-VI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:34:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzlxL-0000LE-9X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:33:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzlxH-0000L9-C2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:33:51 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzlxF-0000Ks-Ab for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:33:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzlxF-0000Ko-50 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:33:49 -0500 Original-Received: from oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Izlx8-0004Uz-Eq; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:33:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lB54Wqqn014103; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:32:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:57:49 -0500") Original-Lines: 19 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84704 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > But some other things have evolved and have been > "standardized" in a different way, and we should seriously consider > changing the defaults to match what other applications are doing. > > We can consider such changes, but we change Emacs merely to follow > other programs only if there is no disadvantage. Agreed. I have personally heard complaints from users about the emacs scrolling behavior which is different So here are 2 proposals to change this, please consider them independently: 1. set scroll-conservatively to some non-zero number by default 2. set scroll-preserve-screen-position to non-nil by default.