From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scroll-conservatively default Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:29:36 -0800 Message-ID: <200712050429.lB54TaVD014042@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> References: <200712020048.lB20mS9R002812@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200712032120.lB3LKwJ1003309@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200712040725.lB47P150025265@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196829111 1686 80.91.229.12 (5 Dec 2007 04:31:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 04:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 05 05:32:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IzlvT-0002K2-A1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:31:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzlvC-0004u7-MH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:31:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzluP-0003uH-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:30:53 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzluO-0003sn-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:30:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzluO-0003sT-95 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:30:52 -0500 Original-Received: from oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IzluK-0003MX-2C; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:30:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lB54TaVD014042; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:29:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:10:12 +0200") Original-Lines: 34 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84703 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > From: Dan Nicolaescu > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:25:01 -0800 > > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > > > From: Dan Nicolaescu > > > > Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:20:57 -0800 > > > > > > > > 2. Defaults should not be chosen based on what people that can write > > > > their own .emacs like. > > > > > > The point was that, given the age of this feature (see below), many > > > users would be accustomed to this behavior, so changing this > > > particular default would require them all to modify their .emacs. > > > That's be a hassle, I think. > > > > My point is that we need to balance the hassle for the old users with > > the one for new users that are not used to the behavior. > > I think none of the people who reads this list qualify as > representatives of the latter population of Emacs users. Agreed. > So it sounds > like this is an argument between old users who like the current > default and those who don't. I disagree with that assessment, but I trust that these old users can come to an agreement that is beneficial to most users, not just to themselves.