From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scroll-conservatively default Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:20:57 -0800 Message-ID: <200712032120.lB3LKwJ1003309@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> References: <200712020048.lB20mS9R002812@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196716956 14128 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2007 21:22:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:22:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 03 22:22:45 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IzIkA-0002Pf-Pg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:22:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzIjs-0002GL-J5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:22:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzIjp-0002Fx-My for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:22:01 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzIjk-0002EZ-U0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:22:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzIjk-0002EW-P2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:21:56 -0500 Original-Received: from oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IzIjj-0006pI-G8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:21:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lB3LKwJ1003309 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:20:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: ("Johan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bockg=E5rd=22's?= message of "Sun, 02 Dec 2007 02:21:32 +0100") Original-Lines: 19 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84602 Archived-At: bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockg=E5rd) writes: > Dan Nicolaescu writes: >=20 > > Then please let's do this by default. The current default of 0 for=20 > > `scroll-conservatively' does not seem to be very helpful. >=20 > It does to me. I *like* Emacs's default scrolling behavior. There are 2 things here: 1. Can you please explain why is it better to have scroll-conservatively be non-zero? 2. Defaults should not be chosen based on what people that can write their own .emacs like. They should be chosen but for the benefit of people that do not have a .emacs. Emacs should try to be consistent with the general accepted behavior of other applications. And only try to be different after very careful consideration.=20