From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christian Faulhammer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: D-Bus integration into Emacs Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:48:23 +0100 Message-ID: <20071203094823.19bfeb4b@gmx.de> References: <874pf6ypv8.fsf@gmx.de> <87prxp57la.fsf@gmx.de> <18259.27327.46121.155608@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <20071203080459.3fc50296@gmx.de> <18259.45576.834760.600713@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1502254486==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196713460 1421 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2007 20:24:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nick Roberts Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 03 21:24:29 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IzHq1-0006b7-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:24:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzHpk-00023m-RM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz73K-0008Jy-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:53:22 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz73I-0008Iv-U1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:53:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iz73I-0008Il-FH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:53:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iz73H-0003tA-VN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:53:20 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Dec 2007 08:46:39 -0000 Original-Received: from u-6-049.vpn.RWTH-Aachen.DE (EHLO localhost) [137.226.102.49] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 03 Dec 2007 09:46:39 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3050383 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX185rBFMWiQ5CMMgvZlgrrknl4M1rsZ9dvtmaoI3TQ uHHZR3F4lC/oNu In-Reply-To: <18259.45576.834760.600713@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:23:05 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84594 Archived-At: --===============1502254486== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/yXLdDyoXMSjODNR8WvVafpo"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 --Sig_/yXLdDyoXMSjODNR8WvVafpo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nick Roberts : > Christian Faulhammer writes: > > Nick Roberts : > > > > I've committed the files to the trunk. In order to activate > > > > D-Bus integration, one must apply "./configure --with-dbus". > > > > It's tested under GNU/Linux only, but there seem to exist > > > > D-Bus implementations for Mac OS X and Win32 as well. > > > If someone has D-Bus on their OS would they want to configure > > > Emacs without it? Shouldn't configure just check for this > > > feature and configure Emacs to use it if found, as is done with > > > most other features? > > Yes, maybe they want Emacs without it, so please make it > > selectable without automagic detection. > I'm starting from a position of ignorance, but perhaps resolve that by > explaining in simple terms both what dbus would give me and why I > might not want it. The reality is that if it's off by default, most > users won't be aware of it to turn it on. However, if it's on by > default, presumably only users who already knew about it would want > to turn it off. Most people who build a D-Bus aware Emacs will follow the commits and mailing lists closely. So they know how they do...in Gentoo (which is source-based, so build on the user's system) people can have D-Bus globally but only deactivated for Emacs for whatever reason. Auto-detection will switch it on even if USE=3Ddbus is not activated, we patch ALSA detection out to give users control if they want to have ALSA everywhere except Emacs. So mostly it reduces hassle for packagers. People using Emacs CVS on Gentoo see the option dbus and can choose if they activate it. V-Li --=20 Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project , #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode --Sig_/yXLdDyoXMSjODNR8WvVafpo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHU8LXNQqtfCuFneMRAqgRAKCLcaFxqpOQyQ7W6q0uuiwD0AQX/gCfb2B0 ct9zcYksz6zrKutttZbgM60= =bFLT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/yXLdDyoXMSjODNR8WvVafpo-- --===============1502254486== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel --===============1502254486==--